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Bad team. Simple as that IMO.
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How about that NCAA run Dave? KState often has our number. I think we'll be lucky to get to the NIT. Barnes will have to use his mulligan after this season.
Haha....obviously doesn't look too good after last night.
I'm still gonna wait to see what this team looks like with Kabongo before I put the fork in them. Their regular-season resume won't get them in. They'll still need a Big 12 tourney run to get the auto bid. Doesn't look very likely after that performance, but I'll wait to see if Texas puts up more of a fight against KSU at home with Kabongo in a few weeks.
KState is not an easy road game for a team considered the youngest in college basketball, especially with no Kabongo or Holmes. Paging Randle! Paging Frazier! Come to Texas ASAP!
It has been obvious that we are in rebuilding mode for some time. I play chess online with a UConn alumni. When I tell him about the angst that we are going through, after he stops laughing, he says that a .500 record is a good year in a rebuilding year. Just like in the discussions that were going on before the Tech win, I still think that we have some pretty good team parts and we obviously need a couple of gooduns coming in after this year. Luckily, last I heard, we still have a chance at a couple of gooduns and both of them have intimated that the present state of affairs before the Tech win, will not enter into their decisions. As disappointing as last nights game is, we are still in a rebuilding year. I have been of the opinion that the NCAA playoffs were a possibility, but more than likely, not. It was fun after the Tech win to conjure up what the possibilities might be, but now we are back face to face with the reality of the situation. Yesterday, in another thread, I brought up the possibility of the NIT, and as sundancekid says, we might have to be lucky to get there. From a strictly selfish standpoint, if we do get into the NIT, I might get to watch a few more games in person. However this turns out, the possibilities for next year are still pretty much intact. I think I am just gonna hide and watch and see how it all turns out.
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Sorry but Texas should never have to rebuild - the Horns will be extremely fortunate to finish the year at .500 - Saturday's game will tell us alot about this team
I am sorry to disagree with you, but you need to study a little of the history of the top basketball programs over the last twenty years or so. The first part of your post is patently absurd.
Postscript: Look, sorry if I am testy. I guess it has been a long day. I am just wondering how you could say something like that. It does not seem to have anything to do with any reality that I know of, other than, "I want it! Therefore, I shall have it!" If there is some basis for your statement, please support it. I would be interested in reading your post.
Post-postscript: Like I said, It has been a long day. See attached video. That is my other alter-ego, Fluff.
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This post has been edited 6 times, most recently by BudreauReye 15 months ago
That's about it in a nutshell.
The real issue is that this team hasn't improved at all since December; if anything it looks worse. Our freshman point guard has either run out of gas or lost what confidence he had. Our front line completely disappeared against KSU. Worst; our best scorer has the Avery Bradley look on his face. I'd love to write this off to being a young team; but young teams are supposed to get better as the season goes on and this team obviously hasn't.
This post was edited by gordosan 15 months ago
Even an improving team has it's ups and downs. Losing Holmes was a blow down low. Most teams experience a rebuilding year at least once a decade. Just because "we're Texas" doesn't mean we don't fall into the same category as the UNC, UCLA and Indianas of the world. It happens and is happening this year. For all those calling for Barnes ' head, I think you're going to have to wait and see what we do these next couple of years unless Dodds really does want to make him the sacrificial lamb. I doubt it . Even though he hasn't won a championship he's had a lot of success here at Texas. I don't think one bad season will doom him.
Apology accepted. Now why should Texas never have to rebuild? You seem to be assuming a standard that (a) has never been historically true, (b) assumes Texas is a blue-blood basketball power, which it is not (and even then is probably not true).
This post was edited by DLev 14 months ago
Of course, your friend can say that from the perspective of having watched teams go from .500-ish to deep tournament runs and even national championships in just one or two years on multiple occasions under Calhoun
1989 NIT Quarterfinals to 1990 Elite Eight
1993 NIT first round to 1994 Sweet Sixteen and 1995 Elite Eight
1997 NIT third round to 1998 Elite Eight and 1999 NC
2001 NIT second round to 2002 Elite Eight
2007 no postseason to 2008 Final Four
2010 NIT second round to 2011 NC
Calhoun made a career out of getting to the pinnacle, then starting over. I'm guessing his career is rather unique that way.
I wonder how forgiving those UConn fans would be if their last final four was a decade ago.
And if their last trip to the second weekend of the tournament was 5 years ago.
They would not be forgiving at all, but they never had that problem with Calhoun. After 1990 he never went more than 2 years in a row without a second weekend in the NCAA tournament.
I was down voted for simply speaking reality; so may as well pick up another one. This isn't a one year issue. Texas was a mediocre team last year that probably wouldn't have made the tournament except for reputation and name; and with no surprise went out in the first round. First week-end outs in the other two with one other first round loss. Basically, we haven't had a top twenty team at the end of the year for five years.
Plus its hard to call this an up and down rebuilding team. We've won one game since New Year's and this isn't a strong Big XII year. This is the ongoing issue for me. Texas hasn't gotten better as the season progressed during most all but one of those season's; and this year's team has clearly gotten worse since New Year's. Losing Holmes I guess was blow, but losing a seven points a game can't explain what we saw against KSU. That was the most embarrassing performance I've seen a Texas team put up since George H. was president.
But I'll turn into Polly Anna. We are hitting the easier part of our conference schedule. Only two look like given losses; Kansas and OSU on the road. Hard to imagine that we'll beat K-State regardless of where we play them; but home court does do wonders. WVU on the road is a reach; but they are a bad team as well and we should have beaten them in the first game. OSU, Oklahoma, Baylor and ISU in Austin. I'd like to hope we could win at least one and hopefully two of those games. . TCU twice and Tech once more. Plus we do get a legitimate point guard to run the team; even if he is going to be covered with rust. If Rick hasn't lost this team; we should win four and possibly five games to close out the regular season and finish sixth or seventh going into the conference tournament.
That's pretty much what I've been saying for months, but I will suggest the 2011 team was a top 20 team that just didn't get out of the round of 32. I think it was 7th in the pre-tournament AP poll.
But one year in five isn't nearly good enough. It's almost hard to believe how far removed we are from the great run from 2001-02 through 2007-08.
This post was edited by bierce 14 months ago
You are absolutely correct. That is UConn's standard. Our standard is Rick Barnes' record over the past fourteen years. Not as good as UConn's, but it is what we have. As I have previously stated, unless we completely lose out the rest of the season - which, to me, would indicate that something worse than just a rebuilding year is at hand - as far as I am concerned, Coach Barnes gets a pass. "The Powers that Be" have not been talking to me lately, so I guess I will just have to hide and watch. One of the nice things about taking a long view on issues such as this, is that I don't have to get too high or too low like I used to when I was younger. Right now, the thing that I am most interested in is whether anybody steps up tomorrow night and whether the team as a whole shows any resilience, which they HAVE done previously this season. If any of our coaches decide to quit or get fired at some time in the future, I'll gin up some interest then. If some other folks want to put forth some effort discussing those "what ifs" now, that's OK with me. I'll probably read some of what they have to say. But, for me it is just a lot of palaver that I fairly quickly lose interest in.
While I am at it, since we are talking about what ifs, I guess one of the interesting discussions that we will be having if this team is able to somewhat salvage this season, and somehow Coach Barnes doesn't lose his job, is about how some folks will bemoan the fact that our basketball future will not be as bright as it coulda been. You will have to pardon me, I have a pretty strong contrarian streak in me, and I thought maybe we could get a head start on that discussion. ;)
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