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That's just the underhanded, passive aggressive way in which he whines. Hence, "...and that's fair."
NM TX Stampede said it first.
This post was edited by Berrugamesh 15 months ago
And that's fair.
Mack, I'm going to talk directly to you, because I know your minions are reading this.
SHUT. THE. FU@%. UP! Contrary to what that narcissistic voice in your head keeps telling you, at this point, it'd be better if you'd just stop talking and start coaching.
And I don't give a rat's ass if the quote was taken out of context or not. Here we are. Again. With Mack "educating" the press on the standards at Texas. Yeah, Mack. We get it. We've heard the same exact thing from you time and time again. Texas has better standards. No crap. You don't like it, please feel free to GTFO. But don't sit here and point at the standards and say "not fair". As mcb pointed out, you get paid north of $5M to deal with those "interesting" details. Idiot.
I have to disagree they were a better all around team. I think they were us. One could just as easily say their best win was against UCLA who lost a couple of close games to Stanford (same as OSU) and got absolutely blown up by Baylor who we beat barely.
Now was it a good win for the program. Definitely! but I think people saw OSUs ranking prior to the game and just assumed they were better then they really are but I have never really put much stock in rankings that are voted on by guys who don't watch games and only see ESPN highlights. They finished with the same record and a lot of similar stats. I think we have better talent but in the end the teams were pretty similar to me.
Your post is so far off base it's ridiculous.
1. He was talking to the players
2. He said something to the effect of this is why you come to UT, because they have high standards.
3. He never said they weren't fair. He likes the standards.
To further this, I heard him on another LHN show say that he never wants to work at a place that doesn't have high enough standards to fire you when you aren't doing well, and the money to do so if needed.
Yeah I will just disagree that he likes the standards.
The guy is so high on the eight win, nine win or ten win legacies that he cooks his statements to whatever the current record is.
It doesn't matter what context it was said in.
IMO if you have been following Mack's statements to the media since he has been here this is his MO.
This is what he believes.
Even if it was taken out of context, this is Mack's way of whining and taking jabs at the fans. He's done if for years. He'll start off talking about the "unfair" expectations at Texas, the uninformed fans, throw out a bunch of excuses for the team's performance, and then he'll wrap everything up with some quote from DKR about the high expectations at UT and that's just the way it is, or that's the way it should be etc. Mack just needs to cut out the whiny bs and excuses all together. You have been here for 15 years, you know the expectations for this program, either deal with them and take the 5 mil per year or resign.
If you really believe that Mack Brown enjoys the high standards at a place like Texas, of which hype, scrutiny, and fan expectations are a part, then you are irrevocably lost. Might as well not bother attempting dialogue with anyone else, because the odds that they're sane and have been paying attention, and that's going to put the conversation on tilt for you, man.
My personal opinion is that he likes the benefits of being at a place like UT, with high standards, but doesn't handle the negatives that come with it very well.
Meaning, schools with high standards usually have good resources and will provide everything necessary for him to succeed. But, he doesn't like how the fan base has turned on him and doesn't know how to handle it. I honestly don't think he is concerned with his job security. I think his struggle is with how to get the fan base back on his side so that he can retire with his legacy in tact.
With quotes like this one I don't think it's a jab at fans. I think it is him trying to spin an average season to his players and set the tone for next year.
I also think that your tired nonsense to everyone that doesn't completely agree with you is ridiculous. Your name alone shows that you are irrational, yet you want to get everyone to think the same as you. Do us all a favor and jump already!! People can think Mack is doing a bad job without thinking everything he does is a calculated jab at the fans.
I had to listen to the whining and "you're not a coach!!!" screams on the board for years when I mocked things Brown said while we were "winning". I was told repeatedly that I was a blind jerk for calling the guy an insecure coachspeaking liar, dating back to the Jerry Scarborough "I'll quit if Texas fans don't appreciate me more!" message after the Stanford 2000 loss and before the Oklahoma prisonraping. So, no, we weren't "all" eating what he said up, and you are full of shit for claiming as much.
Back in the Vince & Colt era, I recall Mack constantly mentioning competing for championships and getting to BCS Bowls as the standard for Texas. And that happened to be what Texas was capable of doing and what it was doing at that time. I don't think I've heard him mention those things recently. Now, it's about getting back to 10 wins. Coincidently, that happens to be the only thing Texas is capable of next season after the past three years. Mack waters down the standards to match the state of the program and hopes that Texas fans can't see through his bullshit.
This post was edited by Silky Johnson 15 months ago
Thank you for your advice on my posting style. It will help me improve in the future so that I can be more amenable to those people who disagree with me on subject matter. One of my goals here is to make a bunch of new friends and to conform more closely with a behavioral style that makes people comfortable with the status quo and feeling genial when it comes to something we all spend an inordinate amount of time on yet see in a completely different manner. In the future, I will be nicer, more positive, and I will fully consider and acknowledge the value of your thoughts even when I find them completely baseless, without merit, and a waste of bandwidth on this site.
The last thing I would ever want to do is take a strong position on something that causes the other side to firm up their position so that we can clearly get to an understanding of where everyone stands. I'd prefer to spend 3 pages going back and forth in soft polite rebuttals because making you feel better about the fallacies you've built up in your belief structure will probably make you my friend down the line as those positions continue to be torn down.
Congratulations you are now a friend of the program. Please proceed to the nearest door where your participation ribbon awaits along with the privilege of watching the team eat cookies and win awards after losses.
Remember, no cursing within earshot of the players. You may toss you hat on the ground as hard as you like though and the occasional 'gosh darn it' is allowed.
This post was edited by JeezGuy 15 months ago
I personally think Mack does too much talking. The standards are high here. He knew that when he took the job. Context or not, he needs to stop playing the pity game, roll up his sleeves and go to work. Mack's own mouth gets him in trouble because rather than admit the obvious, he sometimes tries to gloss over it or point to excuses of why expectations were not met. Prime examples of that are when he points to other teams stats and brags on other teams players as if he setting up a narrative for a loss. I personally don't want to hear about the other team; I want to hear about why our team should win the game and when we don't, I sure as hell don't want to hear him telling his team in a loss (like WVU) that “you may have just played the best team in the country. Go brag on WV" as if it's ok to ignore the fact that our defense got run over like a freight train. How about getting rid of player awards after losses. Stupid concept and just sends a weak message across the board to your team IMO. If your players need to be singled out in losses to make them "feel better", then you've got more problems than you think as a whole.
We need more accountability, less sunshine pumping and a coach that knows when to shut the hell up and just coach. Like I’ve said, he’s back for another year and if he can somehow manage to bring this team back to winning a conference championship, then I’ll give him the credit he deserves, but I’m done with listening to all the talk and hype going in to next season. How the team performs on the field dictates everything and if Mack isn’t smart enough to figure that out by now, well then we may be in for another long season next year. I’m holding on to some hope that we have enough players that step up, some position coaches that take on more of a leadership role and Mack allows them to do their job in terms of getting the best players on the field ready to compete and removing any obstacles in terms of attitude and entitlement off the field. Another words..instill some real discipline and not manufactured slogans and chants. It's one and done next season for Mack and I guess will find out how bad he really wants to win. It will require some changes on his part no doubt in terms of how he runs this team and it starts with talking less and coaching more.
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