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With K-State losing tonight, if Texas Wins out and hand K-State another loss, is it likely that Texas would get a BCS Bowl bid even if OU wins the Conference?
2 BCS bids for the Big 12?
Would Texas likely get picked for it over K-State?
Texas would be a very attractive BCS team and would get picked over KSU.
Yes. Without a doubt. A 10-2 UT is much more attractive than a 10-2 KSU for TV and traveling fan purposes.
Yes.. we are very attractive team and so 2 loses would get us in
Maybe. There is still the problem of there being only 4 at large spots available, and there is a not far-fetched scenario to have 4 teams finish at 11-1 or better who would not be in a position to take an auto berth and would be looking to one of the at large berths.
We know Notre Dame is in, since it will finish no worse than 11-1.
If Florida beats FSU, it gets in at 11-1, but is has been eliminated from the SEC championship game.
If Stanford beats UCLA on Saturday, the Stanford-UCLA rematch will determine Pac 12 auto bid. If Oregon beats Oregon State, it gets in at 11-1.
Clemson is not eligible for the ACC championship game. If if beats South Carolina, it could be picked at 11-1.
Would Texas be a more desirable commodity than some of those due to name, size, etc? Maybe. Is it more deserving at 10-2? Maybe not.
We definitely want at least one of the following to happen on Saturday:
UCLA to beat Stanford
South Carolina to beat Clemson
I don't think Florida losing will matter. Texas will not vault all the 10-2 SEC teams ahead of it, since the Sugar Bowl will probably lose Alabama or Georgia to the championship game, be in a position to select a replacement, and will likely opt for another SEC team.
Texas will be chosen over any 2 loss at large team.
Too many scenarios to know for sure.
1. Notre Dame
2. SEC champion (Alabama)
3. Big East Champion (Louisville or Rutgers)
4. ACC Champ (FSU)
5. Big 10 Champ
6. Pac-12 Champ
7. Big 12 Champ
Looking like...while anything from a done deal
BCS Championship Game: Notre Dame v. Alabama
Rose Bowl: Big 10 Champ (Nebraska) vs. Pac-12 Champ (Stanford)
Orange Bowl: ACC Champ (FSU) vs. at-large
Sugar Bowl: SEC #2 selection (Georgia) vs. at-large
Fiesta Bowl: Big 12 Champ vs. Big East (Louisville)
Teams still in the hunt not mentioned:
This post was edited by Gerry Hamilton 17 months ago
National Director of Scouting & Recruiting Analyst
Texas would need Clemson to lose to South Carolina.
Yeah, looks like Clemson needs to lose
If Clemson is not in the top 4, they aren't going over 10-2 Texas.
If you consider Clemson to be held in such low regard, why are you so keen on them joining the Big 12?
You don't seem to know how the game works that well. The BCS is about making money. Clemson doesn't move those needles like Texas does. That has nothing to do with the quality of a program Clemson has, or the level of competition they would bring to the field.
Texas better TV ratings but KSU will travel better......toss up. I think we have a better shot vs KSU than TCU after last night.
"Leadership is wisdom, courage and great carelessness of self"
No, I think I just don't know how your brain works, thank you.
If Clemson doesn't move the needle for BCS purposes, I fail to see how hit moves the needle for conference strength and stability purposes. See my comment on the Rutgers/Maryland thread regarding whether Clemson is a less desirable property than other ACC schools. It might have a good football team today, but the reasons for bringing it into the fold (markets, audiences, $$$$) don't seem to be there.
When compared to Texas, Clemson doesn't move the needles like Texas does. If Texas isn't an option then Clemson would probably get the last at-large.
Clemson is less desirable when compared to Texas or OU most teams are, but compared to the rest of the ACC they are light years ahead.
Florida, A&M, and LSU won't be in the hunt if Georgia plays in the Sugar Bowl. The BCS still has its two-per-conference rule. One of Texas, KSU, and OU will be the Big 12 champ. If Texas runs the table, I really don't believe the Orange or Sugar is going to take KSU on a two-game losing streak, including a loss to 10-2 Texas, over Texas. The only schools that would be of issue would be Clemson and Oregon, and there's a decent chance Oregon still wins the Pac 12.
Seeing this I have mixed feelings about winning the league if it means a game against Rutgers or Louisville. More attractive match up if we finish second in the conference and play in the Orange, Sugar or Cotton Bowls.
I don't see how anyone would pick Kstate over Texas for the other at large spot if it comes to that. Remember Kstate will have lost two in a row and by beating Kstate, Texas will definitely be the "hot team" in the conference. You add that to the huge following that Texas has and to me it's no contest on that front. Another thing to consider is the prospect of an OU loss to OSU, which as of now seems quite possible. I really feel that Texas will be playing K state for what ultimately could be the Big 12 championship game Dec. 1st. No matter what, we still have to take care of our business and that starts this Thursday.
Agree with your post but remember teams being hot etc has nothing to do it. ......bowls making the most money is the deal.
I agree (always been about $$$) but media perception certainly does have something to do with rankings... just ask the SEC. No question if we were to win against Kstate, the media would play that up to some extent (maybe a little less now however with the Baylor win). My point is Texas definitely would be ranked higher than both Oklahoma and Kstate and in my mind would get the nod as one of the at large teams, if not an automatic invite, assuming OSU beats OU next weekend.
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