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i know you guys don't like reading about coaching hypotheticals but suppose mack is forced out after this year and somehow we were able to hire petersen, how do you think his coaching to the big 12, would his offense put us at a disadvantage in the big 12 or was our harsin offense conservative because of mack and had to much pressure to score because of diaz crappy defense. I personally think he would transition great because his teams are always damn good defense and special teams wise(kicker not included) that plus i think he's the real offensive coordinator at boise and his superior motivation and preparation skills compared to mack would be very successful here. For me personally if i could have one coach to prepare for a big game in which both teams had equal talent i would choose petersen over anybody
I think he could have success, But he would have to have a lot of people on his staff with Texas recruiting ties because I don't think he's well known in Texas to pull top recruits every cycle.
I'm in the no Peterson camp. It's not that I think he's a bad coach, I just don't think he's a good fit for Texas. IMO
The Texas offense couldn't really be like the Boise State offense until they get an offensive line that can run the ball on good defenses. Texas hasn't had a good offensive line that could both run block and pass protect since the 2006. McWhorter killed Texas.
Boise's o-line coaching is really impressive i've seen their 6'3 ans 6'4 tackles dominate guys like jarvis jones and stansley maponga. I think petersen has presence in texas as they recruit here a lot and ut sells it self. The biggest lock with petersen would be that our guys would be ready for ou, win or lose we wouldn't get demolished by 50
I agree. I want a fiery coach preferably with a defensive background. I know we had that. He's in the SEC now . Find another one please.
So if offensive coaches like kelly, shaw petersen or sumlin wanted to coach here you wouldn't want them. Petersens teams always play stout defense
I didn't say that. I said that's what I would prefer. And only one of those candidates is likely. I prefer someone else that's all.I've said in other threads David Shaw would be a great hire. It's just not happening.
The 2 previous head coaches at BSU who moved to BCS conferences (Pac & Big 12) did not do very well and got fired. This romantic idea that something that works well in a low competition league will work even better with higher profile players in a power league just hasn't worked out in reality. I realize that BSU has had some success ooc against BCS teams. In every case, those games have come in September or in a bowl game. In other words, they have been in a situation where they could focus all of their energy and practice time on one opponent. Over the long haul, that won't work when you face good teams regularly.
I think Harsin ran the offense he wanted to run. It didn't work because he was committed to rigid personnel groupings, failed to use his best playmakers adequately, and wasn't a very good play caller.
I think he would be successful at Texas. I think there are plenty of coaches that can be successful at Texas. If Mack had success at Texas, then I don't see why Petersen would not. Texas sells itself. The name recruits by itself. Give me Petersen. I woukd take him all day!
I would have to cast a vote in favor of Peterson. Just because of the new energy and buzz it would create and lord knows we could use a bit of that. I know there are others and I would probably agree w/ those as well.
Does he coach any basketball on the side?
I'm thinking Charlie Strong.
Patterson or Strong for me. I'd be willing to settle for Gundy though if he hired a great DC.
I don't understand the Petersen love affair when it comes to UT. He is a good coach but didn't even build the Boise State program...and look what happened to Dan Hawkins after he left Boise. It's not too hard to maintain a 10 win program in the league Boise State plays in. Give me Patterson and a guy who knows Texas football any day.
Lots of coaches out there who would do far better than Brown has done. Petersen included. Not my first choice though.
Totally agree. Bad fit on a number of fronts, not the least of which is recruiting.
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NCAA needs a lot more Peterson's in the coaching ranks. Two years ago I would have said yes, but not today. Strong is who I want now. Or maybe after Harbaugh wins the SB next season he will want to go back to college.
I'm liking Charlie.
If you are looking young and hungry, I would be thinking Freeze and Franklin. Both have done incredible jobs. Ole Miss has another solid season and Freeze will be one of the hottest coaches in America. Nobody did a better job than him last year coaching. Improvement on both sides of the ball was very impressive. Both guys can recruit very well
I like Patterson over Peterson.
I think we learned from the Harsin debacle.....A Boise offense does not work in the BIG XII....It's Spread or Die in this conference...
Saban (probably not going to happen), Muschamp (I think he would listen), Meyer (probably not going to happen), Strong and Patterson would be my top 5 in that order.
The, uh, conference champions beg to differ. The BSU offense was on track to do more than fine the the BigXII. It just needed personnel and time. Two years isn't enough time to switch from a spread to a power system or vice versa.
Peterson would do just fine here. His success at Boise has been an order of magnitude greater than his predecessors who failed when they moved on. He'll move on one day and be succesful at his next stop, probably on the West Coast, and the knock on him will not be " he's just had it soo easy at BSU in their weak conference" to " well he's a West Coast guy".
He's not coming.
I got brains. I got big ol' brains. I got dinosaur brains.
Meyer could've have been ours for the asking in 2010 if Sally Brown and De Loss don't talk Mack out of retiring.
Franklin's success might transfer to Texas more easily than Strong's. Franklin has made Vandy competitive in the SEC, and recruits all over the South. Strong had one successful season in a less competitive conference, and is heavily dependent on his recruiting ties in South Florida.
Agree about Patterson over Petersen. Patterson already has established recruting contacts in Texas, and has proven he can win outside the Mountain West.
Muschmap still a possibility, but not likely.
Although much less experienced that the others, Applewhite should be considered a default candidate, depending on how he does as OC.
"debacle"? really, he started with what in '11? A couple of freshmen RB's, a true freshman QB (Ash) and WR (Shipley) along with a fifth year RB (Fozzy) arguably made up his top 5 players on offense. And, all of those five spent significant time injured. Not to mention a true freshman at LT (Cochran). Did you miss the 2010 season? Then in 2012 he has to eat clock because the defense can't stop anybody. Plus, he ran spread. He ran everything. He was multiple which is what you do when you lack pieces to make your offense go (i.e. make the defense work as hard a possible to prepare using shifts, motion, etc.).
If Texas ran spread last year, WVU would have beaten Texas by 30 and Okie St and Baylor would have blown us out. Imagine those teams with an extra 4+ possessions in our games last year.
Harsin did recruit Heard and Swoopes. Both are spread guys. It's not like Harsin was anti-spread. We just didn't have the maturity and experience to run it 85% of the time. And again, last year the defense was a M-A-J-O-R issue.
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