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Really good article that speaks a lot of truth about where things currently sit with Barnes and his future at Texas.
The Texas head coach is losing his luster -- and he needs to get it back soon. Unfortunately, he's off to a rough start.
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I thought last season was forgettable, but this one has the makings of much worse.
“Kansas may wind up number one in these polls, but that would be so unfair to Texas...” -- Len Elmore, 2/13/11
Stolen from Wescott at BON...it's not going to help recruiting that Sheldon and Julien aren't going to say the best things about Texas to fellow Texas recruits. I have a hard time envisioning any way that Rick survives next season.
Only way is to win.
They won't be on campus any longer, so I suspect that their impact going forward won't be that great. But with that said, Rick is going to have a lot of trouble recruiting in state. The reputation of the program has taken a dive, and the 2013-14 squad is a long shot to make the tourney. Not a good combination.
Nobody wins consistently without good players. Whether it's because of the AAU problem or something else, Texas just isn't getting the talent lately. Even the ones that we have gotten (Ridley & Kabongo) have failed to live up to their elite reputations. There had better be some hits in the incoming class.
so basically the one and done kids are not living up to their potential. The 4 yr player with lower talent is not staying 4 yrs. To sum it up, Barnes is getting the least from the best and the least from the worst. At least he is consistent
Barnes is pretty much in a lose/lose isnt he????
Should not have survived this past season.
5 year trend tells me all I need to know.
Katz with a counterpoint:
Should Texas be worried that these three [McClellan, Lewis, Bond], as well as NBA-draft-bound guard Myck Kabongo (23-game amateurism suspension), are out of the program? If last season’s freshmen class is on board with the way Barnes wants to play, the answer is no. Ioannis Papapetrou, Javan Felix, Connor Lammert, Demarcus Holland, Prince Ibeh and Jonathan Holmes will be the core of next season’s team. Holland clearly likes the idea of what remains in Austin. He tweeted after a workout on April 30: “Honestly never loved a team like I do now. Feels great when you can get it in, say family on three, and really feel like brothers. #Horns.’’ At the time, Bond, McClellan and Kabongo were all gone. Barnes told his staff that he wants to get back to the teams he has had in the past, with players who will play with toughness and display the passion for winning. According to someone close to the program, despite the defections, the staff has looked at this spring as one of its best in terms of player development. The Longhorns also brought in four newcomers for next season. Texas will be picked in the lower half of the league, below Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor, Iowa State and Kansas State. The onus is on this crew, led by someone like Holland, to propel Texas back to its rightful place in the Big 12, in competition behind Kansas. If these departures are addition by subtraction, Barnes will know early on. If not, next season could seem like a dog year.
Katz always was a supporter of Barnes, but this piece appears to show a large willingness to accept a coaching staff's positive spin on defections. When a coach begins talking about how the solution is for the players to be "tough" and have a "winning attitude," I immediately begin to think the problems are too pervasive to be cured by specific on court strategies, tactics, and execution. It's one thing to cite the need to be better at defending the paint or the three point arc or getting penetration by the point guard or finding open shooters or getting better shooters. That shows an observer has identified a flaw in team performance that can be corrected with instruction or introduction of a new play or new player.
It's another thing entirely to say the team doesn't know how to win. That identifies the whole team from the coach to the guy who only plays the final play of the last home game as the problem.
The idea that Holland will propel Texas back to prominence seems a little far fetched. He's a hard nosed defender, but has a very limited offensive skill set at this point.
I laughed when I read those closing lines. I have to think Katz used Holland only because he was quoted earlier in the article.
It would be kind of scary to think that "knowing how to win" translates to "giving starter minutes to a .174 three point shooter who has the third highest ratio of 3pt attempts/fg attempts on the team." I like Holland's defense, but whatever he gained Texas on defense, he lost back on the other end.
Well, they aren't living up to the hype. Big guys like Ridley often appear dominant in high school, because they can physically overwhelm an opponent that, in Ridley's case, he may have outweighed by 50 pounds. The step up in competition can be a rude awakening.
My opinion of Kabongo while watching him at Findlay Prep was that he wasn't as good as advertised, but what do I know. In high school, his speed was a superior ability, and he made the most of it.
At this point we have more coaches than players, fire Barnes yesterday
Chemistry, hard work, and just plain buying into the program go a long way. My most talented teams were not the ones to accomplish the most.
But, you also can't win without talent. And looking at this roster it will be hard to make the tournament unless the incoming freshmen are better than advertised and the returning players have seen dramatic improvement.
In the end, I think if they can make the tournament and not have 2-3 transfers at the end of the year I can chalk the last 2 years up to bad seeds, and will think Barnes probably deserves another year.
Used to rip on Huggins at Cincinnati when it looked like his solution to everything was to tell his team to play harder.
You are correct that things that are fixable rarely are a matter of attitude or toughness.
Walking off a team when there are serious minutes, in order to go halfway across the country to a new program where the situation is less known, tells me all that I need to know.
And Lewis is the one player that doesn't fit the mold of the Bonds and McClellans, that supposedly Barnes was happy to see go. All I ever heard about Lewis was he was a good defensive player that Barnes really thought would make a difference on next year's team. And he left on his own accord despite Barnes wanting him to stay...
True but, the writing has been on the wall for a while, he wasn't working out with the players all spring. Hopefully Barnes Ego will get a reality check that he is responsible for one that got away. Maybe he should change his nature. However he only has one year and it could be too late.
That is what is his downfall. He recruits kids who can play defense but can't play offense. So when they go down the floor the other team usually has to guard 3 players because two of them are no threat to score.
gordosan, you might be interested in this Q and A from this morning's chat:
Katz said the following yesterday regarding the basketball program:
"According to someone close to the program, despite the defections, the staff has looked at this spring as one of its best in terms of player development."
Is the staff really that enthused about the progress of the remaining players?
Are there specific players being praised for specific improvements?
If so, then who are they and for what are they being praised?
Jeff Howe answered:
I think overall the staff is pleased with what they're seeing with the understanding that this is still a likely bubble team next season.
Bierce, the one guy I keep hearing rave reviews for is Holland. I think his is the physical development that can really make him one of the better perimeter defenders in the conference.
Based on a conversation I had with someone following the Lewis news, the feeling is that there isn't much expected drop off from what Juice could have given then compared to what the staff feels its going to get from Holland.
That last sentence should be qualified to "on the defensive side" imo. No way on the offensive side--and there's no way the staff can know offensively until live games. I highly doubt that Holland will be a double digit scorer next year.
Barnes won't settle for a bubble team. I don't believe that is his expectation and more to the point he can't afford to have that. I don't think he will survive that.
I guess with him we can only speculate. Maybe he just didn't like to be yelled at or the players that transferred were his friends and he didn't want to be here without them. Unless he talks then we may never know.
I saw that. Made me think of days when I had a coach who bought of book of coaching motivational saying. Before one game he told us "if they don't score, we won't lose". I mentioned it to him that he may have the wrong sport, but maybe Barnes thinks the same thing.
Funny. Did that comment adversely affect your playing time?
No, he had a sense of humor.
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