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Haven't posted but once, but based on an old thread that I just read(and forgive me if you have answered this question before)who do you you think would be on the short list to replace Mack if he were to retire in 2-3 years? As an aside, thanks for the product you have created and given us here.
This post was edited by Manzana Blanca 21 months ago
Of the guys on staff, I think it would be either Major or Diaz. I think either would be excellent head coaches and shepherds and leaders of a college program.
Depending on timing, I'm anxious to see how guys like Gary Patterson and Art Briles do. Then there's a guy like Paul Rhodes who I know Deloss has a lot of respect for.
Two guys out west are very interesting to me - Jim Mora and Steve Sarkisian.
From the south, I think Dan Mullen will be a no go for a variety of reasons. Larry Fedora, if he does well in Chapel Hill, might be someone to consider because of his Texas ties.
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Bobby.. many thanks for answering ! Also,.as good as Major and Diaz are(and I think either would be great) do you think Texas would give the head coaching position to someone with no head coaching experience?
What is it about Mullen that is a "no go" for you? If you don't feel comfortable answering the last question I understand, but perhaps you can give us some veiled hints...lol.
Do you think Major would leave if he wasn't given the head coaching position when Mack retires ,or do you think he might stay as OC depending on who got hired?
Finally, if it was up to you, who would YOU pick if Mack was to retire in 2 years? I know there are alot of variables, and things could change in just 2 years, but would like your opinion--and we all know its not set in stone...lol
P.S. Would appreciate other moderators jumping in with your opinions also!
I'm obviously not Bobby but I'll drop in with my
Dodds and Mack made it clear that they were willing to hand over the keys to someone with no HC experience when they made Muschamp the coach in waiting and I don't think they would hesitate to turn it over to any of the coordinators on staff.
My personal preference would be Major. He is a great football mind and a student of the game. He has watched Mack build and rebuild this program for almost 15 years. He is a great recruiter and a legend in the state where the teams recruiting base is located. Being a player at Texas makes it personal to him. I would sure hate to lose him to another school... again.
Bobby probably know more about this, I got the idea that Muschamp left because he felt Mack was never going to hand him the keys.
Want to see More from Mullen, but I like him.
Honestly, I think a lot of the discussion should be centered around who has the ability to build a great coaching staff from top to bottom. I think Sarkesian has a very extensive network and could grab almost anyone he wanted to be on his staff.
I would love to ask Diaz and Applewhite who would fill out their staffs from the ground up.
Paul Rhoades is a perfect fit for a school like ISU, I don't think his "us against the world rah rah" crap would do well at any major D1 program.
One thing for sure, I think Mack will probably "make the hire". Which he should.
I would be sick to my stomach if anyone on that list other than Diaz was the next HC. I could get behind Major for obvious reasons but nobody else on that list excites me at all.
I'm a huge Diaz believer, but any of these guys will work as long as Akina is still coaching DB's (he's only 54!!!)
Here's the beauty of the situation. Hypothetically if you hired Major or Diaz, you probably wouldn''t give them the enormous 5 million that Mack makes since they would be first time head coaches. So if you gave them 2-3 million instead, that frees up some financial room to go out and snap top of the line assistants to fill 1-2 voids in addition to bumping up your current staff like Akina, Harsin, and Applewhite/Diaz to ensure they stay put.
i think there are at least three major conference head coaches on staff with Mack. Applewhite, Diaz and Harsin. I think most of us love all of those three, and respect their knowledge and what appears to be their ability to impart that knowledge to the athletes that they coach. I expect each of them to go on and have full successful careers as head coaches.
that said, personally i would LOVE Applewhite to be the next head coach at UT. Reasons are obvious to those of us who have been around UT for a long time. Kid is a LEADER, always has been. Has all the skills a coach needs. GREAT recruiter. And knows Texas recruiting now about as well as anyone in the state. The thing that holds me back on this is my question of why Mack had to go out and get Harsin and make Major "co-coordinator". And in fact the reality seems to be that Harsin is "the guy" as OC. (someone more knowledgeable then me, please correct that last comment if it is not true, please). I also wonder if Major is the sort to be more like Mack. Maybe the CEO type HC who runs the whole program and finds the best of the best to be his staff and coach the kids.
Diaz seems to me to have a personality that could make him really shine at the next level. He could continually teach his DC' his philosophies and leave the offensive to guys like Harsin or Major.
Harsin for some reason does not hit me as UT HC guy. Here again i am more asking than claiming something as a fact, but it hits me that Harsin is that obsessed, single focused kind of guy, that may not be as ready to deal with all the issues that a HC needs. Does he have the personality to take on all the issues that a Texas HC has to deal with beyond coaching. I see him maybe as more like his ex boss Peterson who seems to me to want to "coach football" and nothing else. Someone help me out here if i am misjudging Harsin.
But i would be shocked, seriously, if we stepped outside of these three guys to get a new HC if Mack decided to take a hike in the next year or so
oh and kind of a ps, i figure that we automatically lose Major the minute we pick someone else as the new HC. Lordie i just had this horrible thought flash through my brain. We hire someone else,the aggies hire Major. And he proves us wrong for not hiring him. Remember DKR was a Sooner when he played college ball.
Manny Diaz end of question
Don't want Muschamp, he's not media savvy and he reportedly didn't handle his last few months on the 40 in a way that a future head coach would. The powers that be won't bring him back unless he drastically changes.
Briles can F off, classless d-bag.
You hire a major or diaz you need to help them out by opening up the wallet for the best stud coordinators out there.
I think Major eventually becomes the HC at Texas even if it's not after Mack. I think Major takes another HC job somewhere else and once the next coach retires or gets kicked out the door, I think Major steps in with some solid HC experience under his belt. He is so young and has so much ahead of him that I see him being a HC somewhere else before returning and ending his coaching career at Texas...
This is where I come from. The ability to sell the program is legitimate and from the heart.
Mike Gundy feels the same way at Okie State.
That being said, it can't be the only factor or the single biggest one. You have to think he has what it takes to be a leader at a place like Texas, and there again, I think he does.
1. Not a great recruiter. Not sure if he's an above average recruiter even.
2. No ties to the state of Texas.
3. There's a reason he didn't get a call from Florida when Urban Meyer left even though he was the OC for two national title teams and had just turned around a moribund Mississippi State program. Instead, Florida went with a DC from a school that went 5-7. Read into it what you will.
This post was edited by BobbyBurton 21 months ago
One thing I've always wondered about Applewhite is how he was able to move beyond the experience he had here as a player. I would think he would have had some major resentment towards Mack. Maybe that dicipated over time, but my gosh, I don't know how I would have handled that situation.
What a great thread topic. IMO Sarkisian would be VERY interesting. Young, dynamic, and would recruit Texas with extreme relentlessness, but he has no ties to Texas and it remains to be seen how far he can bring Washington, but he's doing really good so far. No doubt Applewhite is a great recruiter and would be deeply passionate about Texas, but what has he done to get the keys to Texas? I think he'd be good because he seems to have a high football acumen and he'd surround himself with great coordinators. If I was making the call Diaz' phone would ring first.
Three key factors for me:
1. Charisma and personal character required to represent The University of Texas. Has to be able to connect with the HS coaches in Texas and make them feel valued. Same with the big money donors.
2. Rolodex. Does he have the network required to build a staff of the best and brightest.
3. Ability to lead without micro managing. This guy has to be able to get out of the way and let his coordinators do their thing.
Diaz and Applewhite appear to have number 1. Both are bright guys and I'll assume that even with their relative youth they have built strong networks (plus they would have the lure of the Texas brand backing them). Unknown on number 3. Some could argue that until recently Mack Brown wasn't the best at this either.
I'd be fine with Diaz, Applewhite, Sarkisian, Mora or Patterson.
I am not an Art Briles fan. Art Briles would probably kill it here and keep the lock down on in state recruits.
I don't think people realize just how limited Major was physically later in his career. That's part of it. The other part is that he is/was a team player first and foremost.
Art Briles with a top-level defense would be an interesting thing. Similar to Leach in Lubbock if he had ever had one.
Bobby, I know we had the HCIW thing set up with Muschamp, but do you really think DeLoss would really hand over the keys to someone with no head coaching experience? I guess at one time they were, with Muschamp, but do you believe that could still occur?
I love Major and Diaz both and think they will both be great head coaches. I tend to lean towards Diaz myself.
One interesting thing would be to see the coaching staffs at NC State and FSU for Diaz and Rice, Cuse and Alabama for Applewhite for likely candidates they would hire to fill out their coaching staffs.
Muschamp was simply on another level in that regard and I think from top to bottom, would be able to put together a more effective group than MA and Diaz.
u r one of the few people that have stated this publicly and i entirely agree with it. i saw a practice before the year Chris replaced him and he seemed like he could barely walk much less actually play football cause of his knee. A healthy major and the simms-applewhite debate would make more sense to me, but even though the end didn't turn out great, i'm not sure how pretty applewhite would have looked those first few games. and who could have seen the implosion coming in the CU game?
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