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That is kind of on coaching.
Yeah, that's probably true. I've just never seen a team/coach combo so baffled by an offense that I ran in 6th grade.
Signatures are stupid. You should block them.
Wait...isn't Barnes from Minn? He went to college up there? No wait, it's his wife? Maybe they have a dream home in Minnesota? He has family up there? Something, anything...just Please, PLEASE tell me Barnes is a candidate for the Minn job...
Well, he and Tubby are good friends, but that probably doesn't help your cause.
It is unbelievable how predictable this stuff is. I had zero doubt that Barnes would be defended against the great travesty of being compared to Howland and his firing, and I sadly knew that at least 4 of his mediocre defenders defending his mediocrity would be here and on the first page. Rinse and repeat right through Dodds's exit and whoever replaces each overpaid coach and their first off-game when some of these clowns will show up with what they perceive to be a humorously timed "Fire Coach X" post in smarmy mockery to all of us meanies who want wholesale change.
The zombies have taken over Belmont, the coaching staffs, the booster base, and the online community is clearly next. Run for your lives, if you still know you have one!
I like this one better.
thank you everyone for all these views. keep spreading the love and give everyone the chance to be "experienced"
Yes, but the title didn't seem to fit ctj's theme so well.
I think that's where the problem at Texas starts. He is limping to the finish line to get that annuity.
It's a shame. He should have been gone a few years ago.
Bottom line, if you are a Barnes supporter, he can do no wrong - if you want improvement to the program, then you want a new coach - one question I have, if Texas was not loaded, would Barnes keep his job at another school? Just think the man is getting paid top ten money but everyone has their own opinion
One additional comment, the state of Texas has plenty of high school talent - simply need to keep the guys in state
Bitching about the staff is always the Time of the Season for CTJ.
This post was edited by gordosan 13 months ago
"If you are a Barnes supporter, he can do no wrong."
Bob in Houston will tell you Barnes can do wrong and even point to many instances of wrongness, yet he is still a Barnes supporter. I was a Barnes supporter for many years, but let's not overlook all my criticism of his program over the past year, most of which has detailed a lack of success over a 5 year period.
It isn't that Barnes supporters think he can do no wrong, it's that most of his supporters feel that he can still do good and that it would be a gamble to try a different coach, having no guarantee of better success. Well, after 5 years of very little success, more are ready to gamble, methinks.
"if you want improvement to the program, then you want a new coach"
OK, but see the point above about a new coach not being a guarantee for better success.
"If Texas was not loaded, would Barnes keep his job at another school?"
That doesn't even make any sense. Could you explain that question? If Texas wasn't loaded, then Barnes wouldn't be making that salary. If Texas wasn't loaded, then it wouldn't be in a position to pay uber-bucks to someone else. Are you trying ask whether another school would keep Barnes, given his record over the past 5 seasons? If so, the answer would be that it depends on how much $ they have and how much the last 5 years falls short of their tradition in the sport.
"simply need to keep the guys in state"
While getting the program back to the heights it was in from 2003-2008 would go a long way to that end, with the pervasive influence of AAU coaches, shoe companies, and other shadowy figures, that often isn't so simple.
This post was edited by bierce 13 months ago
I stand corrected. +1 for both.
Rick probably has the team back to where it was during the 2000 season. Enough talent to make the tournament and be a first round out. Even the Big XII minus two may resemble the Big XII during Rick's early years. Not as good as it has been for the last several years. What he needs now is an elite recruit like he get in 2001 when T.J. decided to come to Austin. The player can be an elite enabler like T.J. who made everyone else look better; or he can be a 20 point a game scorer on the wing. My question is whether the past 4-5 years have poisoned the water for Rick as a recruiter. There were two elite in state scorers this year; at least one of whom initially wanted to come to Texas per Gerry but were soured by the on court performance. My question is whether Rick has become Bobby Knight late in his great run at Indiana.
I worry about the recruiting. We are still able to bring in good players, but the elite national players have not succumbed to our siren song lately. Kabongo was our last elite recruit (granted, only two cycles ago), but he didn't turn out as advertised.
Now that we appear to have shut down the Findley Prep/Canadian pipeline, we are having some trouble attracting some of the very best. I like the two players coming in, but I no longer count on freshmen until I see them play against college teams. Now that I say that, I guess Ridley was supposed to be an elite recruit, but his performance fell short.
I also sometimes wonder, when it comes to big men, if Barnes doesn't prefer bulk over length. Ibeh would be a counter to that, so, I don't know.
So were/are Aldridge, Chapman, Atchley, and Lammert. We've had quite a few sticks.
From what I know, the feeling in the Dallas area is that more recruits will continue to steer clear from Austin as long as Barnes is around. I know about as well as anybody how dirty the AAU scene is in the Dallas area but with the last few years many are viewing Texas basketball as many around the state view Texas football: THE place to go & waste your talent. With Barnes around, Texas will have to go OOS or reach(in-state) to get talent to Austin. Barnes already was having difficulty getting anyone out of Dallas & the experiments with Jai Lucas, Shawn Williams & Jordan Hamilton have only hurt those chances A LOT more.
I'm confused by the Jordan Hamilton reference. He is from LA, not Texas. He made it to the NBA in 2 years. After his first (rocky) year in the program, both he and his dad were quoted in an article praising Barnes for helping Jordan become more mature.
The problem in Dallas is that everyone wants to get paid. When Rick Barnes gets talented players they usually end up becoming professional basketball players. A poor argument. My main beef with him is that he once stated getting kids to the NBA was more important than
Championships. Quite ironic that the reason the wheels have fallen off the wagon is from so many kids hopping straight into the draft. I think Bierce did a wonderful, impartial assessment of what is really going on. And congrats to CTJ for being such a psychic marvel once again. So much class. Bravo.
And Jai Lucas was an undersized point guard from Houston I believe. NBA talent he was not. Done.
Hmm, is Minnesota willing to top the $2.5 million a year Barnes is getting paid a year by UT to "coach"? No, somehow I don't think Minnesota will see that as a good investment.
But did he make him a better basketball player?
Do you even know who these players are, or anything about them?
Freshman stats - 10.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg
Soph stats - 18.6 ppg, 7.7 ppg
He also improved in FT%, FG%, 3pt FG%
In other words, he improved in everything.
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