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You must be right. He's one of those really smart coaches that litter the landscape. Please, man.

Jimbo Fisher stated roughly a month ago that he was in favor of a move to the Big 12, so I guess that means that FSU is all locked up.

The reality is that the coaches don't know jack shit and they won't know jack shit until something is actually final and determined. Go look at your own damned articles stating as much about Mack Brown and Barnes during the past Pac-16 discussions.

No other explanation other than you have an agenda that you just want to insert into every conversation for you to somehow jump from DeLoss isn't in favor of adding Clemson to DeLoss is in favor of mediocrity. Just silly.

On the 10 v. 12 debate, there is no doubt in my mind that it is an easier path to the national championship for the Big 12 champion to not have to play a conference championship game. Year after year the Big 12 championship game has caused the Big 12 to miss out on a spot in the national championship game that it had going into that game. This year, Oklahoma State beating K State or Nebraska would not have vaulted it past Bama.

So maybe you can call sticking at 10 to be a chicken way out, but really it's a strategy looking for the easiest path to the national championship game, which seems like shooting for the opposite of mediocrity to me. If mediocrity and making the most money was the goal, bring on a conference championship game and pocket the extra money.

Well he plays the part REALLY REALLY well.

Do you have anger management issues?

Lighten up.

I agree with Bobby; I think Clemson is out for now. However, I never really thought Clemson was ever really in in the first place, right now.
The major players here are Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame. BYU, Louisville, Maryland, North Carolina State, Pittsburg, Clemson, Cincinnati, Miami, and Rutgers are all sitting in the second row, looking in. This is all about $ and which additional teams can generate the most tv $.
I think the big 12 goes back to 12, maybe with FSU and GT first. And, eventually goes to l6 as a true playoff comes about over a 3-4 year period. $ will eventually force ND to join a conference.

close,

Oftentimes I accept that you know more than me in certain situations. In this case, I feel much more capable of assessing the relative intelligence of coaches than most who have only seen the people through the eyes of the media.

Sure, sometimes the media tells the whole story, sometimes it does not.

As it relates to this situation, I feel pretty confident that Clemson to the Big 12 isn't happening and that's based on the coach's comment and some other things we've been hearing all along - and stating as such - as it relates to money.

You can choose to agree or disagree as you wish, but I feel like my opinion is fairly informed.

Because a HC says something about it?

I find it hard to believe if people way above Dabo "I got my ass kicked by 70 in a BCS game" Swiney on the Org chart want to come to the Big 12 they will give one iota what he thinks.

Clemson's not Texas when it comes to academics and/or structure. When the FB coach at Clemson speaks, he's speaking for the university IMO. Call it a cultural difference but that's exactly how I read it and am inclined to believe.

It looks like the fans on the CU board are pissed at him too. Here is the CU247 mods take on it.

Swinney's latest rant, where he called out bloggers and undermined the authority of university administrators and the Board of Trustees, is yet another example where he chose to use 1,000 words when 10 would have sufficed. A head coach calling out bloggers? Rabbit ears anyone?

You might recall he has gone o the pulpit before to castigate internet message boards as "the devil's playground" and characterized last season's ACC Championship as only for those he deemed "all in".

What Swinney still fails to realize is spouting off opinions on the various groups of fans and media are doing nothing but dividing an already fragile fan base, many who see this latest outburst as yet another example of their coach talking too much and generally coming across as foolish and immature. This is especially true when the spotlight today is clearly was supposed to be for the Dabo Swinney Football Camp not Dabo Swinney.

One might point out that every elite program nationally recruits. Locally you could point to the national recruiting of incoming freshman QB Chad Kelly from Buffalo NY, QB Cole Stoudt from Dublin OH or perhaps Tajh Boyd from Tidewater Va which is no short drive to Clemson. In fact Tajh Boyd had narrowed his list to Oregon, Ohio State and Clemson. He was an Oregon lean for some time but ultimately came to Clemson. Let's go old school what about former Clemson player and video grad asst Brandon Streeter from Gettysburg Pa? I for one am glad Clemson went outside their footprint for these kids.

WR Keenan Allen from Greensboro, NC ultimately flew over Clemson 2000 miles for Cal. Alabama gets Mark Ingram from Michigan and a national championship and a Heisman. UGA's best stretch in a long time came with QB Matthew Stafford from Texas and RB Knowshon Moreno from NJ. The point? Kids go where they are recruited, where they fit, where they can win and where they can be groomed for the NFL.

FWIW I've been told tonight that Clemson Coach Dabo Swinney may not be on the call tomorrow night with the BOT.

Comments from Clemson's BOT Chairman David Wilkins two weeks ago from David Hood of Tigernet.

"This board is very committed to Clemson athletics and Clemson sports. We want Clemson teams to be the best they can be," "We are very interested in a football program that is excelling at a high level, and we would consider, as we should, any viable option from any conference if we received any. We have not received any."

"If we were contacted by a conference, we would obviously listen to what they had to say," Wilkins said. "And then we would make a reasonable decision. We aren't seeking that, and we aren't making any overtures about that. I think we have a responsibility to consider any viable component that would come our way. But we haven't been contacted by anybody."

Does this change anything with FSU in your opinion?

You make john holmes member look average

Ever consider a career in politics

I can hear Boogie Nights playing in the background.