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Case IS staying!

  • I am a huge Ash supporter (hope springs eternal) and avid proponent of bringing in a JUCO QB, but McCoy did win the A&M game as improbable as it may seem. I think he was given a Mack Brown "free pass" to win the starting job in the Baylor game, regardless of what the OC thought. And he fell flat on his face. But 27-25 is quite a legacy!

    VaHorn

  • I heard that Andrew Luck graduated and will forego the draft for just 1 year to come play his final year of eligibility at Texas so he can see what it feels like to have some eliete talent, take Texas to the NC game, and spend a few months running trains. Apparently DGB is in on the deal too and he likes it. Everyone else stays too and Wallace commits.

    RoyalwithCheese

  • HookemDTX said...

    No. The team won in spite of him.

    Agreed.

    Also I am of the opinion that Case looked around and had not takers and is crawling back for forgiveness.

    Sayonara.

    PDX Horn

  • Reminder:
    1) Wallace isn't a sure thing to commit
    2) No one knows for sure about Case transferring
    3) The Brewers have not been contacted in regards to bringing in another quarterback (as of today)
    4) Mack is still undecided whether he will be having Popeyes or KFC for lunch.

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    Hooked636905

  • Hooked636905 said...

    Reminder:
    1) Wallace isn't a sure thing to commit
    2) No one knows for sure about Case transferring
    3) The Brewers have not been contacted in regards to bringing in another quarterback (as of today)
    4) Mack is still undecided whether he will be having Popeyes or KFC for lunch.

    Popeyes...

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    Bandit18

  • There has been too much spilled milk already over this. He almost has to leave now.

    Newy25

  • satam55 said...

    God, I hope he just transfers.

    It's okay to think this, but let's try to not say this out loud. I too, don't think Case is a viable option for us at QB, but he doesn't deserve the venom.

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • TexShoe said...

    It's okay to think this, but let's try to not say this out loud. I too, don't think Case is a viable option for us at QB, but he doesn't deserve the venom.


    I hope he transfers. I don't have any venom for him, but I hope he transfers. He's not a D1 caliber QB. That's not a critical statement, it's a simple reality. He's a fumble risk on every snap due to size, he has an incredibly weak arm, and he and his father perpetually stir drama about playing time as though this were high school.

    I watched McCoy throw a tantrum on tv during the OU game. I saw him looking pissed on the sidelines in several others. I heard his dad speak in the spring and basically tell an audience that his son was the only real solution at QB. It's not Internet innuendo. I have seen things with my own eyes that I am sure others have witnessed as well, in large part because it was all semi-public or public.

    It's not venomous to look at the situation for what it is and discuss it that way. Otherwise, the boards are worthless. You want rah-rah sunshine with nothing but happy face emoticons? Hornfans has plenty of slots open. Not saying that's you, TexShoe, just that it's some folks the minute anything mildly negative is touched on about a player, coach, or team issue.

    close to jumping

  • Nothing against him personally, but I hope he transfers. He should not have been offered in the first place.

    neonmoon

  • I wonder if we've taken players based on previously agreed packaged deals, i.e. I'll come to your school, but in 2 years, you have to take my little brother. I doubt Case fits in this category since when we signed Colt, nobody in the world knew he'd turn into the winningest college QB of all time, even for just a few years, so he didn't have the leverage to do this back then. But as he kept winning games for us, that had to have played a factor. I've also wondered about guys like Jeremy Hills and Marcus Griffin, although Marcus did turn into a solid contributor for us. I'm sure there are others, but I can't remember them right now.

    Back to Case, I surprise myself sometimes when I see myself sounding like a Case apologist. I think part of it goes back to Simms years. Yes, he blew the Colorado game, but the way he was treated afterwards by our own fans still disgusts me to this day.

    This post was edited by TexShoe on 1/5/2012 at 10:08 AM

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • TexShoe said...

    I wonder how if we've taken players based on previously agreed packaged deals, i.e. I'll come to your school, but in 2 years, you have to offer my little brother. I doubt Case fits in this category since when we signed Colt, nobody in the world knew he'd turn into the winningest college QB of all time, even for just a few years, so he didn't have the leverage to do this back then. But I've wondered about guys like Jeremy Hills and Marcus Griffin, although Marcus turned into a decent player for us.

    Hills was a relatively good recruit coming out of high school (4*, top 250ish player in the country), just hasn't panned out for whatever reason. And I believe Marcus came to UT as a walk on and then was awarded a scholarship later in his career.

    njohnson12

  • close to jumping said...

    I hope he transfers. I don't have any venom for him, but I hope he transfers. He's not a D1 caliber QB. That's not a critical statement, it's a simple reality. He's a fumble risk on every snap due to size, he has an incredibly weak arm, and he and his father perpetually stir drama about playing time as though this were high school.

    I watched McCoy throw a tantrum on tv during the OU game. I saw him looking pissed on the sidelines in several others. I heard his dad speak in the spring and basically tell an audience that his son was the only real solution at QB. It's not Internet innuendo. I have seen things with my own eyes that I am sure others have witnessed as well, in large part because it was all semi-public or public.

    It's not venomous to look at the situation for what it is and discuss it that way. Otherwise, the boards are worthless. You want rah-rah sunshine with nothing but happy face emoticons? Hornfans has plenty of slots open. Not saying that's you, TexShoe, just that it's some folks the minute anything mildly negative is touched on about a player, coach, or team issue.

    good post. totally agree.

    Bill Stickers

  • If he's staying it's because nobody wants him.

    TXA2009

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    Hookem89

  • Black Shipley said...

    The ONLY reason why we had a chance to win that game is because our defense played lights out and got a pick-6.

    I also just wish he'd transfer. There are much more deserving people out there to get a free ride at The University of Texas. The ONLY reason why he got an offer was because of his brother.

    The fact that he can't find another school to waste a scholarship on him speaks volumes.

    GRRRRREAT. Happy Happy Joy Joy.

    I hope to God you are wrong.

    You really think that? He was a 3 star QB who threw for over 6k yards in his HS career. Ranked 24th in the country for dual threat QBs. We've recruited 3 star QBs before. David Ash and Overstreet are two right now. Not arguing his potential NOW, but I think he was recruited because he was a 6'2" QB who loved UT and had a very nice HS career.

    dentonhorn

  • detly wepun said...

    It makes all the sense in the world, because Wallace adds a stronger additional QB than McCoy. I doubt if Brewer has the sense of entitlement you presume he has, but regardless, you do what makes the team stronger.

    This is not about entitlement, its about what were communicating (our message) to him at this point by making this move. If Case, Ash and Overstreet remain as QB's and then you add the 2013 QB, you can clearly see that this becomes an awful crowded house. I'm sure there are some things happening behind the scenes, but until Brewer receives word as to our rationale for making this sudden change, keeping his pledge to me remains the most important. If you lose him in this process, you would agree that the team wouldn't end up stronger as a result. Of course this is all based on speculation. I still think Case ends up transferring in the end.

    txhookem78

  • txhookem78 said...

    This is not about entitlement, its about what were communicating (our message) to him at this point by making this move. If Case, Ash and Overstreet remain as QB's and then you add the 2013 QB, you can clearly see that this becomes an awful crowded house. I'm sure there are some things happening behind the scenes, but until Brewer receives word as to our rationale for making this sudden change, keeping his pledge to me remains the most important. If you lose him in this process, you would agree that the team wouldn't end up stronger as a result. Of course this is all based on speculation. I still think Case ends up transferring in the end.

    Connor Brewer is not VY. He is not a program changing recruit that we need to be worried about losing. I want to win NOW, not 3 years from now.

    austen

  • dentonhorn said...

    You really think that?

    Yep.

    There are countless kids who have nice high school careers that don't get offers due to physical limitations. He was a stick figure coming out of high school with a noodle arm. If his last name wasn't McCoy and his brother wasn't the winningest QB in collegiate history at the time, his only offer would have likely been Colorado State. If the schools would have realized what a pain Helicopter Brad would be, maybe none of them would have offered.

    Black Shipley

  • txhookem78 said...

    If Case, Ash and Overstreet remain as QB's and then you add the 2013 QB, you can clearly see that this becomes an awful crowded house. I'm sure there are some things happening behind the scenes, but until Brewer receives word as to our rationale for making this sudden change, keeping his pledge to me remains the most important.

    I don't think you have anything to worry about. Harsin hasn't recruited this kid for multiple years, installed some of the Boise offense at his high school, and then got him to commit to Texas to only screw it up at the last minute.

    Black Shipley

  • dentonhorn said...

    Ranked 24th in the country for dual threat QBs.

    Do you really believe this to be an accurate ranking? I know a lot of you really obsess over stars, but it helps to cross reference the star system with reality once in awhile.

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • this move for wallace makes me wonder whats really going down behind the sences, earlier the satff said that they werent after JC QB and now harsin has offered and wallace is visiting! i like case as a person but as a QB not so much. he's shown he can play from time to time but i dont think he is what texas needs right now or even ever. right now he's just a good back up and he should take that role or transfer.

    my concern is for overstreet, kid only selected us to play QB. i like this kid in the "wild" and hope that this move doesnt make him go somewhere else. He can run and throw the ball pretty decent and it would help us out alot to have him in the wild.

    Brewer is the pledge at QB that the staff should make a pirioty in making sure he commits, and i dont doubt that mack & co do that when they can. brewer is harsin's guy so im pretty sure the staff is going to do what they need to make sure he shows up on the 40.

    these are all of MO and im just a fan who loves UT football, dont know too much, just what ive seen last year and all the videos of the recurits. just throwing my twocents in there. N E ways HOOK'em and lets hope the Staff makes the right decisions for 2012 season!

    This post was edited by tx_ali3n on 1/5/2012 at 12:45 PM

    tx_ali3n

  • Do we really think that Jalen Overstreet is going to play QB? Personally, I don't see how he was better than Miles Onyegbule or Mikkele Thompson as a HS QB.

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • austen said...

    Connor Brewer is not VY. He is not a program changing recruit that we need to be worried about losing. I want to win NOW, not 3 years from now.

    Wow...so what your saying is this staff has essentially wasted a scholarship offer on a player just bc he's not VY and will never develop into the premier All American starter in your eyes, so we might as well accept whatever happens for the sake of landing someone who may or may not be the answer at QB in the near term? Interesting thought process. It seems your losing sight of the recruiting aspect of all this. I also never compared Brewer to VY BTW. What happens if Wallace isn't the answer? I admit that we don't know what we have with Brewer either, but the same coach (Harsin) evaluating Wallace certainly saw something in Brewer that he liked and thought he could develop over time. If this kid Wallace isn't the quick fix guy u appear to think he is and u end up losing Brewer, then what do you have left? Your back to square one.

    As I mentioned in a recent post, I'm not against the move ( offering Wallace) so long as there is some attrition involved. I'm sure will have some light shed on what's happening behind the scenes that has led our staff to this decision, especially after Mack's own statement in the presser about not going the JUCO route. I'm sure it will work out and Brewer will remain as part of the equation, however its hard to imagine him not being concerned if everything remains as is with the addition of Wallace.

    txhookem78

  • I have kept quiet due to the fact that I don't have firsthand knowledge about the alleged McCoy drama, but I will say that if even half of it is true, I would expect his continued presence to be accompanied by defined parameters regarding future conduct of both Case and his father. If the accusations are baseless, them my apologies to both. I would hope that the University can maintain a great relationship with Colt; but no kid, no matter how well connected, should be allowed to force a school like Texas into this kind of last minute mess.

    Kong

  • TexShoe said...

    Do we really think that Jalen Overstreet is going to play QB? Personally, I don't see how he was better than Miles Onyegbule or Mikkele Thompson as a HS QB.

    He wasn't / isn't. Mykkele and Miles both played 5A ball. Mykkele was sick and I do not believe Overstreet can throw as well as either one.

    RoyalwithCheese