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papa horn said...
What are you using as your ranking system?
Also, if I am reading bruthaman's scenario correctly, Non Conference would be treated like pre-season. If so I would definitely be in favor of that. But, while it would get us much better OOC games it would take some huge paydays away from smaller FBS schools and possibly choke them out financially.
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GPie said...
They already announced out of their meeting that they are looking for a football version of RPI. There won't be the BCS computers anymore, but there is still going to be a computerized ranking to help the committee pick and seed the top 4.
My money would be on the Sagarain Predictor model or something similar being used or adapted for the committee's purposes.
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GPie said...
Right, but its no longer hypothetical. Its happening.
Barring some drastic change, there will be a selection committee and there will be a RPI-style ranking for the committee to use however they want.
All that is left to discuss is the makeup of the committee and the parameters given to them.
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maceoa9903 said...
Yes. It happens. Didn't an 11-5 New England team miss the playoffs a few years back because some team won a crappy division and NE didn't. It happens. Nature of the beast. A conference champion model is the only way to remove any agendas from the equation. Plus, as I've stated, it allows you to play monster OOC games and not be penalized for having the stones to do so.
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Yes. It happens. Didn't an 11-5 New England team miss the playoffs a few years back because some team won a crappy division and NE didn't. It happens. Nature of the beast. A conference champion model is the only way to remove any agendas from the equation. Plus, as I've stated, it allows you to play monster OOC games and not be penalized for having the stones to do so.
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Prometheus7 said...
1) The NFL doesnt have nearly as many teams as D1 CFB, and how do you decide which conference champions make up the top 4? There's a lot more than 4 conferences
2) the NFL's wild card was written into the system to take out the crappy division problem. How do you do a wild card for this system?
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TulsaHorn said...
You seem to say any system is bad. What to do then?
1. Conference champ doesn't mean they deserve to be in the hunt. A weak conference champ is a screwed up as anything you've been complaining about. 2. Computers can pick it, but humans have to write the criteria for the code, so it's still a human. 3. You simply cannot eliminate the human decision making. 4. There is no perfect system. 5. If you have a playoff, you have to pick the teams to get it - it's that simple. The last man out will always complain, regardless of the system used to pick the teams, regardless of the number of teams in.
You get a committee, give them RPI type tools, and have them decide.
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