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Ben Habern retires from football

  • Randy Watson said...

    You must be Bullmarket

    Negative. I can spot bullmarket's 3rd grade crayons without seeing the poster's name. Deep writes at at least 6th grade level.

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • Deep Red said...

    Hey shoe, if you want to deny there is proof, be my guest. It's your culture down there.

    If you believe UT players don't receive extra benefits then cool. That's your deal.

    That's not what I'm saying. What I AM saying is that until you can offer tangible, and actionable proof, it doesn't help your case in trying to prove how dirty we are. Also, until then, I prefer to keep my head in the sand.

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • This just in. Bob Stoops personally pays NFL-ready Juniors to stick around and play another year. $5,000 per month, unless you get injured. Then you get to have Schmitty yell at you and make you eat your own vomit. This is all absolutely true. I have proof. An Okie undergrad told me so.

    Also, Stoops loved to dress up like a tween boy play "tummysticks" with Sandusky. He is missing his dear friend something awful. Again, I have proof. Someone told me so!

    This post was edited by Black Shipley on 8/2/2012 at 3:25 PM

    Black Shipley

  • Deep Red said...

    Not true. The girl voluntarily went with him. The girl was interferring with his current relationship and he tried to intimidate her to stop. According to her at the hearings, she agreed that she embellished her account. Her family wanted no part of any of it.

    If Chaisson did what you say, he would have never been allowed to leave the state. Read what you wrote and then figure out how he wasn't punished.

    What is worse, allowing a committed recruit with past legal issues to join the team, or on your watch allowing good kids to rob people with a gun, and then have a third stomp the victims face in trying to intimidate them from prosecuting?

    I know where I ain't sending my good kid.

    So, the girl is a liar... she was "interferring" with his current relationship so he tried to intimidate her by putting a screwdriver to her throat? Do you have the hearings transcript by chance? Or were you there and heard her say that she was lying to the police?

    If he didn't do what he was charged with, then why did he plead "no contest" which is the same as guilty. If I were innocent of such a disgusting charge, I would do whatever it took to get my good name cleared. Instead he basically admitted guilt and accepted the charges. He does realize that the admission will follow him on his record for the rest of his life?

    What is worse? I'd say it "worse" to have a screwdriver held to a teenage girls neck first and foremost... it's difficult to get any lower than that. And wait - OU players have shot other OU players, gang-raped girls, did steroids at coaches houses (according to Bosworth), and sold cocaine to police. That doesn't even count stomping a mudhole in one of your so called friends ass at a bar because your drunk... the real laugher is that person went for a medical redshirt for being a degenerate.

    You are so clueless on everything you say on this board... it's actually kinda sad. Do you where a tin-foil hat and find yourself licking glass all the time?

    This post was edited by chupita on 8/2/2012 at 3:34 PM

    chupita

  • Deep Red said...

    NFL scouts are evaluating prospects with caution.

    Hey D-bag - this article is about two specific players that were taken to jail for arguing with a cop. Not even charged... this has nothing at all to do with your claim that NFL Scouts are "cautious about UT players" being drafted. Scouts are also considering the fact that Jefferson has been in trouble with the law and likes to where dresses... this is person specific. Nothing to do with UT at all, besides the fact that they play for the Longhorns.

    How does this effect Jackson Jeffcoat in any way?

    This post was edited by chupita on 8/2/2012 at 3:39 PM

    chupita

  • Black Shipley said...

    Still waiting for your "proof", you hopeless toothless simp.

    a bartender told him... and Colt McCoy's wife told him.

    He's on top of it man!

    chupita

  • You teenagers have lowered yourself to juvenile name calling for two days. You sit there at your key board and you are spitting fire. Funny as shit.

    The thought of being the next Penn St is hanging over your head. When the next trio of the likes of Henry, Jones, and Joseph beat someone to death on 6th street, yahoo is going to do an expose' on the history of Horn players and their sordid crimes that have not been held in check.

    Deep Red

  • TexShoe said...

    That's not what I'm saying. What I AM saying is that until you can offer tangible, and actionable proof, it doesn't help your case in trying to prove how dirty we are. Also, until then, I prefer to keep my head in the sand.

    Shoe

    To me, bartenders on 6th street who give first hand accounts of what goes on there with UT players is proof to me. Not just one bartender, but multiple employees and patrons. Since the 360 days I've read countless threads were these accounts are expressed. I'm sure you have too.

    Sure you guys can chalk it up to multiple trolls and that's fine. I know your stance, if you don't get caught it didn't happen. That's fine.

    You've also got McFarland's mom telling of multiple offers and again that's not proof to you guys. Attack the source. So yes, you are currently in the clear on witnesses or a paper trail the NCAA can use, but according to Bama and Auburn, it's going to be a pretty tough standard.

    So as you graciously say, you are free as a fan base to keep your head in the sand. For me, I'm free to see things probably pretty close to how they are.

    Deep Red

  • Deep Red said...

    You teenagers have lowered yourself to juvenile name calling for two days. You sit there at your key board and you are spitting fire. Funny as shit.

    The thought of being the next Penn St is hanging over your head. When the next trio of the likes of Henry, Jones, and Joseph beat someone to death on 6th street, yahoo is going to do an expose' on the history of Horn players and their sordid crimes that have not been held in check.

    Haha. Well, that's nice.

    Anyways, as much fun as it has been reading your delusional crap, I think I'm going to now change my focus to something I actually give two shits about: Texas offering a bunch of 2014 studs that Oklahoma wishes they had a shot at.

    Bye now!

    lol

    Black Shipley

  • chupita said...

    Hey D-bag - this article is about two specific players that were taken to jail for arguing with a cop. Not even charged... this has nothing at all to do with your claim that NFL Scouts are "cautious about UT players" being drafted. Scouts are also considering the fact that Jefferson has been in trouble with the law and likes to where dresses... this is person specific. Nothing to do with UT at all, besides the fact that they play for the Longhorns.

    How does this effect Jackson Jeffcoat in any way?

    Hey, you asked for an article written by my grandmother on the caution NFL teams have with UT prospects. You couldn't seem to find one so I did it for you.

    The article is regarding the arrest (which many of you denied happened, what did you call it? Detained? Yeah, funny) the article goes on to explain where they previously ranked in draft grade, and then that damage may be done to it.

    That's exactly what I said was out there.

    You've played enough word games son. You really aren't good at this flaming.

    Deep Red

  • Deep Red said...

    You teenagers have lowered yourself to juvenile name calling for two days. You sit there at your key board and you are spitting fire. Funny as shit.

    The thought of being the next Penn St is hanging over your head. When the next trio of the likes of Henry, Jones, and Joseph beat someone to death on 6th street, yahoo is going to do an expose' on the history of Horn players and their sordid crimes that have not been held in check.

    Ha, we are teenagers? Well, we better watch out then... Justin Chaisson may hold a screwdriver to our throat or something.

    I gotta love your vivid imagination over there... you think we could replicate the glory days of OU football? Sell cocaine to cops, gang-rape co-eds, shoot each other in the chest, pay our players, do steroids at Darrell Royal's house, threaten girls with screwdrivers, beat our best friends nearly to death (and ask for a medical redshirt for it)? Ya think we can match the OU prowess?

    chupita

  • Black Shipley said...

    Haha. Well, that's nice.

    Anyways, as much fun as it has been reading your delusional crap, I think I'm going to now change my focus to something I actually give two shits about: Texas offering a bunch of 2014 studs that Oklahoma wishes they had a shot at.

    Bye now!

    lol

    Be my guest on taking players we have no shot at. 13-12 has me really covetting your style of recruit. You think you might be able to get a QB anytime soon?

    Deep Red

  • chupita said...

    Ha, we are teenagers? Well, we better watch out then... Justin Chaisson may hold a screwdriver to our throat or something.

    I gotta love your vivid imagination over there... you think we could replicate the glory days of OU football? Sell cocaine to cops, gang-rape co-eds, shoot each other in the chest, pay our players, do steroids at Darrell Royal's house, threaten girls with screwdrivers, beat our best friends nearly to death (and ask for a medical redshirt for it)? Ya think we can match the OU prowess?

    It's 7-4 that you will never match.

    Deep Red

  • It's really too bad that a thread with very nice comments about Ben turned into a rivalry free-for-all with gooner noodlers. In my wildest dreams I can't imagine trolling their board with this crap. It really is a sight to behold.

    This post was edited by TXStampede on 8/2/2012 at 4:20 PM

    TXStampede

  • 59–42–5 the bigger picture

    driftwoodHorn

  • driftwoodHorn said...

    59–42–5 the bigger picture

    Funny to think that they'd have to beat us the next 17 years in a row to pull even in the series. Listening to deep red talk (btw, how is this jerk off not banned from here?) you'd think we'd never won a game against them.

    njohnson12

  • Deep Red said...

    Shoe

    To me, bartenders on 6th street who give first hand accounts of what goes on there with UT players is proof to me. Not just one bartender, but multiple employees and patrons. Since the 360 days I've read countless threads were these accounts are expressed. I'm sure you have too.

    Sure you guys can chalk it up to multiple trolls and that's fine. I know your stance, if you don't get caught it didn't happen. That's fine.

    You've also got McFarland's mom telling of multiple offers and again that's not proof to you guys. Attack the source. So yes, you are currently in the clear on witnesses or a paper trail the NCAA can use, but according to Bama and Auburn, it's going to be a pretty tough standard.

    So as you graciously say, you are free as a fan base to keep your head in the sand. For me, I'm free to see things probably pretty close to how they are.

    The thing about "first hand accounts" is they vary, depending on the source. All we can really rely on are actual facts based on propper investigation of the matter. You have some wild, vivid theories that UT is a horrible program, when it has been proven, documented, and supported multiple times that OU is the biggest POS athletic department to set foot on the field. Stoops just continued to prove that fact yesterday with his inability to discipline his players.

    And yea, Dip Red... you see things "pretty close to how they are"... besides the fact that you ignore any counter argument to the trash you make up. No response to the recent success of the UT players that I pointed out as our 1st round picks... I understand why, cause it blew your "theory" out of the water regarding NFL scouts and UT's lack of success with NFL'ers.

    Keep your ear to the ground old-timer... keep us in the loop about that squeaky clean OU program. (Maybe after they're off probation for the latest basketball violations)

    chupita

  • Deep Red said...

    You teenagers have lowered yourself to juvenile name calling for two days. You sit there at your key board and you are spitting fire. Funny as shit.

    The thought of being the next Penn St is hanging over your head. When the next trio of the likes of Henry, Jones, and Joseph beat someone to death on 6th street, yahoo is going to do an expose' on the history of Horn players and their sordid crimes that have not been held in check.

    We kicked them off the team. No second chance.

    Randy Watson

  • Randy Watson said...

    We kicked them off the team. No second chance.

    Yes Mack kicked off backups. Cedric Benson got a half game suspension for kicking in an apartment door and not allowing a female to leave. He was sentenced to 8 days in jail to which all was suspended. Nice help their out of the justice system.

    Ol Mr disciplanarian Mack Brown suspended Cedric a half a game.

    Deep Red

  • Deep Red said...

    Yes Mack kicked off backups. Cedric Benson got a half game suspension for kicking in an apartment door and not allowing a female to leave. He was sentenced to 8 days in jail to which all was suspended. Nice help their out of the justice system.

    Ol Mr disciplanarian Mack Brown suspended Cedric a half a game.

    You are an idiot. All three of those guys were slated to be starters.

    Benson not allowing a female to leave? Again... link please? That's complete bullcrap. He kicked in the door to get his own property back.

    You are just a bitter, old, lying gooner.

    I hope you trying to paint Texas in a negative light makes you feel better now that half of your offensive line is gone.

    lol

    Black Shipley

  • Deep,

    Let me ask you something... Where do you think Texas would rank in terms of the most corrupt football program in NCAA? What about OU?

    Conversely, how do you think the college football world at large would would answer those two questions?

    "Ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free"

    TexShoe

  • TexShoe said...

    Deep,

    Let me ask you something... Where do you think Texas would rank in terms of the most corrupt football program in NCAA? What about OU?

    Conversely, how do you think the college football world at large would would answer those two questions?

    I don't know where UT would rank but it would be behind OU.

    If you were to rank where Mack Brown and Bob Stoops fall on running a program with good player discipline, I would put Mack way behind Stoops (which has been the majority of the debate here).

    UT fans have been adament that Brown does not recruit troubled kids, while Stoops does. However, Mack's record of keeping these good kids good sucks. You would think the roles would be reversed considering Stoops is so lax in his discipline.

    UT Football's Recent Major Crime Incidents - Frog Fan Forum - Killer Frogs

    Page 1 of 2 - UT Football try to make 0.2 ounces of weed and 5 players that smoked pot out to be a football team drug cartel...UT players had much bigger issues. Below is a list of the major incidents/convictions that UT players have faced in the past couple of years. Please note the word �major� incidents, the following...

    www.killerfrogs.com

    Deep Red

  • Black Shipley said...

    You are an idiot. All three of those guys were slated to be starters.

    Benson not allowing a female to leave? Again... link please? That's complete bullcrap. He kicked in the door to get his own property back.

    You are just a bitter, old, lying gooner.

    I hope you trying to paint Texas in a negative light makes you feel better now that half of your offensive line is gone.

    lol

    You don't need me to paint UT in a bad light. You google UT football arrests and your Internet connection freezes up. Here's a nice little one stop run down of a bunch of good kids that turned bad on daddy Mack's promised watch.

    UT Football's Recent Major Crime Incidents - Frog Fan Forum - Killer Frogs

    Page 1 of 2 - UT Football try to make 0.2 ounces of weed and 5 players that smoked pot out to be a football team drug cartel...UT players had much bigger issues. Below is a list of the major incidents/convictions that UT players have faced in the past couple of years. Please note the word �major� incidents, the following...

    www.killerfrogs.com

    Deep Red

  • tl; dr

    ou sucks

    lol

    Black Shipley

  • Deep Red said...

    UT fans have been adament that Brown does not recruit troubled kids, while Stoops does. However, Mack's record of keeping these good kids good sucks. You would think the roles would be reversed considering Stoops is so lax in his discipline.

    Hey moron gooner noodler, we admit freely that we recruit kids with some trouble in their background. The difference between us an you, besides the f'ing obvious - - intelligence, good looks, chick magnets, low unemployment, no state taxes, ad nauseum - - is that your kids turn sour only after that get on your campus.

    TXStampede