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  • Brenhamhorn said...

    Ok, I see everyone saying Texas needs to take a step in the right direction. What is that exactly?? Do you guys still think Mack should step down??

    Of course.

    Coaching is a young man's game - to win big you need guys with an insatiable, burning desire to win championships, not a keen interest in hopefully incrementally improving their legacy a bit before they throw in the towel.

    HelmetBoy1

  • Brenhamhorn said...

    Are u serious?? Maybe I know more than you think..

    From what i have seen over the time I have been on here, you seem to know a lot . That is why I am very concerned going forward.

    beldar

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  • Brenhamhorn said...

    Are u serious?? Maybe I know more than you think..

    No denying aggie had a good win, recently joined the overated but perception is everything SEC, hired a dynamic coach and appear to be on the upswing. But none of that establishes a tradition of winning or "top brand name" in one season. Add to it that Austin is Austin and well College Station is what it is. They better take advantage of this season in 2014 because 2013 is mostly decided and even with our limited scholarships we have out recruited them (8th v. 12). If you go for star average they drop out of the top 20 with their 16 3 stars out of 29 total. They are loaded with senior and junior starters and will lose two top O linemen to the NFL. Our core players are sophmores and freshmen.

    Point is tap the breaks. One season does not make a trend. The SEC will adjust to the hurry up (Fl. and LSU did) and aggie will return to its role as a solid .500 ball club.

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  • WithoutRecourse said...

    So their SOS ranking is just wrong?

    Obviously its based on polls. I get that. My argument is with a large majority of the teams in that division "watered down", particularly Auburn, Arkansas, Miss. State, Ole Miss, there's not going to be a whole lot of separation at the top in the polls amongst all those teams....look at who they played. The SEC east is just as bad. The non conference schedules are really embarrassing (division 1AA teams) that even some of their powerhouses struggled with. The SEC got the early benefit of having teams ranked early (ex Miss. State) only to find out that they really weren't deserving of such a high ranking. Look at Alabama's schedule before they finally ran into LSU. Not exactly tough sledding, so there loss to Aggy isn't as surprising as the media hyped it to be imo. Its also why u have so many SEC teams ranked in the BCS at the top.

    txhookem78

  • Brenhamhorn said...

    That the Aggies have made a move to take this state?? ESPN will have them in the hearts of recruits from Texas all the way through Alabama.. What do you guys think??

    I think you know a lot about Brenham and the surrounding area. Can you point to factual instances where Aggies are making inroads in other places, much less "made a move to take the state?

    Brenham area has always been a tug of war with Aggie. Their success will definitely make recruiting even more difficult in Brenham, but let's not get carried away and take what you might be hearing from your area and extrapolate it over the whole state.

    tuco65

  • tuco65 said...

    I think you know a lot about Brenham and the surrounding area. Can you point to factual instances where Aggies are making inroads in other places, much less "made a move to take the state?

    Brenham area has always been a tug of war with Aggie. Their success will definitely make recruiting even more difficult in Brenham, but let's not get carried away and take what you might be hearing from your area and extrapolate it over the whole state.

    I didn't mean it that way.just the exposure they're getting. ESPN will pimp them, and we all know how powerful ESPN can be.

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  • Brenhamhorn said...

    I didn't mean it that way.just the exposure they're getting. ESPN will pimp them, and we all know how powerful ESPN can be.

    Would ESPN not be shooting themselves in the foot considering how much investment they have in the LHN?
    Do agree just about all other outlets and newspapers have been beating the drum for them for a while. This will give them plenty of ammo and backs the Aggies up on their abillty to compete in the SEC. I do think if we can win at least one of the next two games and our bowl game, we will be alright. We don't beat Kstate when we are better than they are and that is not the case this year. I agree with you that the Aggies will get their share of top players .
    They are way up there in commits so they should not be able to take too many more this year unless they are going to jerk some offers away from commits. That is usually not a good idea in Texas.

    beldar

  • beldar said...

    Would ESPN not be shooting themselves in the foot considering how much investment they have in the LHN? Do agree just about all other outlets and newspapers have been beating the drum for them for a while. This will give them plenty of ammo and backs the Aggies up on their abillty to compete in the SEC. I do think if we can win at least one of the next two games and our bowl game, we will be alright. We don't beat Kstate when we are better than they are and that is not the case this year. I agree with you that the Aggies will get their share of top players . They are way up there in commits so they should not be able to take too many more this year unless they are going to jerk some offers away from commits. That is usually not a good idea in Texas.

    They have a lot invested in the SEC too.

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  • Brenhamhorn said...

    I didn't mean it that way.just the exposure they're getting. ESPN will pimp them, and we all know how powerful ESPN can be.

    That's fair. But kids make their decisions on a variety of issues. ESPN pimping A&M will happen, but UT will still get their share of exposure too.

    I think one thing that comes into decision making is the school itself and the city the school is in. UT will always win that decision unless a kid wants to be an engineer, which not many football players want to be.

    I'm a city kid and have spent a miserable year of my life in College Station - I have no desire to ever go back. I suspect most city kids would pick Austin over CS if given the chance, even if Sumlin keeps throwing it all over the yard.

    tuco65

  • txhookem78 said...

    Obviously its based on polls. I get that. My argument is with a large majority of the teams in that division "watered down", particularly Auburn, Arkansas, Miss. State, Ole Miss, there's not going to be a whole lot of separation at the top in the polls amongst all those teams....look at who they played. The SEC east is just as bad. The non conference schedules are really embarrassing (division 1AA teams) that even some of their powerhouses struggled with. The SEC got the early benefit of having teams ranked early (ex Miss. State) only to find out that they really weren't deserving of such a high ranking. Look at Alabama's schedule before they finally ran into LSU. Not exactly tough sledding, so there loss to Aggy isn't as surprising as the media hyped it to be imo. Its also why u have so many SEC teams ranked in the BCS at the top.

    The Aggies have the 13th ranked SOS per Sagarin (UT is 23rd by the way).

    The same Sagarin ratings people love to throw out as rating the Big 12 as the #1 conference in the country ahead of the SEC.

    So is Sagarin right or wrong?

    PDX Horn

  • tuco65 said...

    That's fair. But kids make their decisions on a variety of issues. ESPN pimping A&M will happen, but UT will still get their share of exposure too.

    I think one thing that comes into decision making is the school itself and the city the school is in. UT will always win that decision unless a kid wants to be an engineer, which not many football players want to be.

    I'm a city kid and have spent a miserable year of my life in College Station - I have no desire to ever go back. I suspect most city kids would pick Austin over CS if given the chance, even if Sumlin keeps throwing it all over the yard.

    We just need to get back to playing well and winning . We will be OK. We put up a couple of below par years for us which hurt us some in recruiting. Need to finish strong and really roll next year. No more OU debacles.

    beldar

  • maybe its just me, but as easy as their schedule is on paper next year, I think they will have a worse record thanks to a bit more opponent familiarity, and having to replace some damn good lineman.

    rantanamo

  • While I'm definitely impressed with what they have accomplished this year -- I was in the 6-6/7-5 boat -- could we wait until they have a couple of 10-win seasons before anointing them as the next big thing?

    “Kansas may wind up number one in these polls, but that would be so unfair to Texas...” -- Len Elmore, 2/13/11

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  • utxX3 said...

    Agree, aggies have recruiting momentum, play in the premier conference, national TV exposure, tons of excitement while we get raped in the Cotton Bowl and hide out on a network that nobody sees and most don't care about. We need a win against K St to get some "mo" going for ourselves.

    I heard the Aggie on the Horn say something ridiculous like this. Why do you answer this question for me? Which team has been on a network in primetime more? When you answer that tell me about the exposure

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  • Codaxx said...

    I heard the Aggie on the Horn say something ridiculous like this. Why do you answer this question for me? Which team has been on a network in primetime more? When you answer that tell me about the exposure

    Being in primetime is meaningless. The Alabama-Aggie game was the second most watched college football game of the year (behind Bama-LSU last week) on Saturday.

    Aggies game vs LSU was the most watched game of the day even thought they played at 11am on ESPN on 10/26.

    Aggies vs Florida was the 2nd most watched game of the week even though it was at 2:30pm.

    I would think they are getting a ton of exposure.

    PDX Horn

  • you guys don't get it. A&M recruits totally differently and has for since Franchione left. Less focus on 5 stars who often come with a lot of liability and focus on 3 star kids that often are under the radar. Johnny
    Football was never offered by big Mack (burger head!). Why is that. Given him or Ash or McCoy, who would you take. D'Montre Moore, over looked , not offered but leading everyone in sacks.
    Too many 5 stars in 1 place almost creates a power struggle. Taking less and developing to more seems to be working for a lot of schools (BU, TT, OSU, Kstate!)
    It is as much about developing character as it is out right athletic skills and in that, mack is getting his ass kicked.

    blindhog81

  • blindhog81 said...

    you guys don't get it. A&M recruits totally differently and has for since Franchione left. Less focus on 5 stars who often come with a lot of liability and focus on 3 star kids that often are under the radar. Johnny Football was never offered by big Mack (burger head!). Why is that. Given him or Ash or McCoy, who would you take. D'Montre Moore, over looked , not offered but leading everyone in sacks. Too many 5 stars in 1 place almost creates a power struggle. Taking less and developing to more seems to be working for a lot of schools (BU, TT, OSU, Kstate!) It is as much about developing character as it is out right athletic skills and in that, mack is getting his ass kicked.

    This post, from the content to the sentence structuring, sucks fat donkey schlong.

    1. A&M doesn't focus less on 5 stars. That is complete and utter horse shit. The list of 5 stars and highly regarded kids that A&M has offered is a long one.

    2. Don't confuse being forced to go after 3 stars after your major targets go elsewhere with electing to stay away from 5 stars. It's an evaluation game after that, and it appears A&M made some good ones, especially under Sherman. Texas has their share 3 star guys that have gone on to succeed as well.

    3. "Too many 5 stars in 1 place almost creates a power struggle" - No, but if you get a bunch of dudes together that are world class entitled pricks then it creates a bad environment.

    4. Mack may be accused of a lot of things, but not developing character will never be one.

    WildBill71

  • The aggies have 2 first round picks at tackle on offense and 1 on defense. They are the only spread team that can match the SEC in line play on both sides of the ball. Most likely those 3 will be gone next year.

    jc77

  • Is this TexAgs?

    GPie

  • BEHorn said...

    Okay, now you're just being hyperbolic.

    Hell I sold the kid short. He might win it this year if Klein and KSU slip up against BU or Texas.

    Johnny Manziel for Heisman

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    WildBill71

  • We have improved considerably since Kansas. The younger players especially at LB are gaining experience.
    I would not be surprised if we won out. Don't you think it's time that Mack beat Snyder. That may be all he is waiting for to retire with dignity.

    Lateral