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utsal said...
You didn't simply invite discussion, you called everyone babies, and said you "know" are right, The fact is you don't "know" shit. And the tone of your posts is looking for a fight, not a discussion.
I didn't even defend VY (Insight Texas' post does that well enough, and I don't think we need to rehash the Jeff Fisher stuff, including benching Bo Scaife for saying he thought they were better with VY), I just pointed out how ridiculous your posts were.
Calling people babies and telling people to be a man, like we should be scared of you is the epitome of trying to be an internet badass.
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Beast 512 said...
Nobody made threats. Christ on a cracker, you need help understanding things that are pretty black and white.
Why is it time to retire? Does VY seem like the kind of guy that would be a journeyman backup? Does his ego (this isn't a bad thing to have) lead you to believe he can be that person?
Look at all of the jags being signed around the league. Garrard to Miami, Trent Edwards to Philly, Matt freaking Flynn gets starters money after one game. That is from a team that knows all to well what VY can do. I mean Pete Carroll had the best seat in the house, right?
Is VY better than all of those players? I think so. Clearly there aren't a lot of other people around the NFL that think that way. Both he and Fisher are to blame for the Tennessee fiasco. You better be one hell of a player if you are going to play in the NFL with a bad rap. VY has been good but not on the level of some other knuckleheads that do far worse yet command dollars.
VY will always be GOD around here. I understand that. He's the greatest player I've ever seen. But the thrill is gone, in regards to him being who we thought he would be in the NFL. Probably a little too late to put your best foot forward.
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Beast 512 said...
Telling someone to be a man is not a threat. I didn't call everyone a baby, just the three (at the time) people that downvoted me and didn't back it up. This is a discussion forum (I realize you suck at this part of it) last time I checked.
For the record, I also thanked the three people that came back to tell me why they downvoted me. Clearly my feelings are hurt......ha ha.
As for the argument about VY, you offer nothing. You think he should accept being a scrub. Clearly you know nothing about VY. We expected greatness, not a man hoping to earn a paycheck. The VY we all know, expected a HOF career.
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DLev said...
I'm just baffled you're still defending yourself. The only two things dumber than your original post may be (1) the fact that you're shocked that people down voted you, and (2) your delusional belief that you're entitled to an explanation from people that disagree.
Let me bottom line this for you, if you talk crap about one of the greatest Longhorns of all time, you're going to get down voted and you're going to deserve it. And you are not entitled to any explanation from anyone. You need to just move on.
This post was edited by Beast 512 on 3/21/2012 at 4:20 PM
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Beast 512 said...
I'm through with the baby talk. Move on or get over it already. Damn.
Do you really believe VY can be a third string QB or a journeyman guy the rest of his life? You really think he'll do that? VY sees himself as a starter. Or did you miss the "I'm going to take my talents to another team" quote upon being released from the Titans?
So yes, unless he needs money, he should retire with the offers currently available to him. Does VY really love playing pro football? Does anyone really get that vibe? I hope the guy gets a valid offer. It's almost unbelievable to me that nobody wants him.
But what I've come to realize is that he had an owner basically tell a coach he starts at QB no matter what and botched that situation. He had a widely respected head coach like Reid pick him up, probably made the most of the opportunity given and yet wasn't invited back.
So did he make his bed?
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Beast 512 said...
I'm through with the baby talk. Move on or get over it already. Damn.
Do you really believe VY can be a third string QB or a journeyman guy the rest of his life? You really think he'll do that? VY sees himself as a starter. Or did you miss the "I'm going to take my talents to another team" quote upon being released from the Titans?
So yes, unless he needs money, he should retire with the offers currently available to him. Does VY really love playing pro football? Does anyone really get that vibe? I hope the guy gets a valid offer. It's almost unbelievable to me that nobody wants him.
But what I've come to realize is that he had an owner basically tell a coach he starts at QB no matter what and botched that situation. He had a widely respected head coach like Reid pick him up, probably made the most of the opportunity given and yet wasn't invited back.
So did he make his bed?
This post was edited by utsal on 3/21/2012 at 5:07 PM
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I have some significant experience with how lousy bosses can adversely affect the careers of other people. I was in banking for over 20 years and two of my last three bosses were sociopathic nut jobs who are now serving sentences in federal prisons for defrauding banks.
Fisher would have been fired years earlier without Vince, but somehow Fisher's senseless ragging on Vince carries more weight than Vince's performances on the field under adverse circumstances. Anybody who watched the last minute march to beat the Giants last year or watched Vince blowing up New England's defense the next week can see that he has leadership and comeback gifts that very few have in the NFL. He has one off game against Seattle and he is done? He has never done anything to compare with some of Tony Romo's epic failures such as Detroit last year.
Unfortunately for Vince he managed to tweak the nose of the NFL coaching fraternity with numb nuts Fisher.
All Vince needs is one head coach who cares more about winning than Jeff Fisher's antics.If the Texans had a clue they would pick up the guy who cleaned their clock every time they played him and heal the idiocy of passing on him in the draft. Can you imagine Vince leading his hometown team against the Ravens last year? But no, lets keep the journeyman that no one ever heard of outside of Houston who has no championship or comeback credentials. Brilliant aggy thinking....
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I have some significant experience with how lousy bosses can adversely affect the careers of other people. I was in banking for over 20 years and two of my last three bosses were sociopathic nut jobs who are now serving sentences in federal prisons for defrauding banks.
Fisher would have been fired years earlier without Vince, but somehow Fisher's senseless ragging on Vince carries more weight than Vince's performances on the field under adverse circumstances. Anybody who watched the last minute march to beat the Giants last year or watched Vince blowing up New England's defense the next week can see that he has leadership and comeback gifts that very few have in the NFL. He has one off game against Seattle and he is done? He has never done anything to compare with some of Tony Romo's epic failures such as Detroit last year.
Unfortunately for Vince he managed to tweak the nose of the NFL coaching fraternity with numb nuts Fisher. All Vince needs is one head coach who cares more about winning than Jeff Fisher's antics.
If the Texans had a clue they would pick up the guy who cleaned their clock every time they played him and heal the idiocy of passing on him in the draft. Can you imagine Vince leading his hometown team against the Ravens last year? But no, lets keep the journeyman that no one ever heard of outside of Houston who has no championship or comeback credentials. Brilliant aggy thinking....
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texasgal said...
I'm a woman and I down voted you twice!
Your comments are juvenile and you absolutely know nothing about Vince except what trash has been written about him and that seems what you want to believe.
Go find another website. Your stupid comments are not wanted on here!
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49ers or Dolphins for VY?