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2013 PF Jordan Mickey Update

  • Below from ESPN

    "2013 forward Jordan Mickey has impressed at the adidas Invitational in Indianapolis this weekend. The 6-foot-8 Arlington, T.X. native, according to ESPN.com, "can knock down jumpers from 15 to 17 feet, and his jump hook is reliable with good extension and soft touch. He is also versatile enough to catch the ball at the elbow and face up."

    "Mickey said at the event that his list of schools include Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa State, Kansas, Louisville, Ohio State, SMU, Texas, Texas A&M and West Virginia."

    "It's clearly too early to say which way he's leaning, but his hometown Longhorns could be a good fit. Texas currently has a load of young talent, but by the time Mickey gets to Austin, they will be nearing the end of their college careers. Four-star power forward Connor Lammert will be an incoming freshman this year, but no player has committed for 2013."

    "Rick Barnes needs a big body on the inside that can bang in the post. Mickey, known for his defensive ability, is very physical and can be that player. His commitment at the very least would help front court depth."

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/features/rumors

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by mcb0703 on 7/14/2012 at 8:06 PM

    mcb0703

  • mcb0703 said...

    Below from ESPN

    "2013 forward Jordan Mickey has impressed at the adidas Invitational in Indianapolis this weekend. The 6-foot-8 Arlington, T.X. native, according to ESPN.com, "can knock down jumpers from 15 to 17 feet, and his jump hook is reliable with good extension and soft touch. He is also versatile enough to catch the ball at the elbow and face up."

    "Mickey said at the event that his list of schools include Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa State, Kansas, Louisville, Ohio State, SMU, Texas, Texas A&M and West Virginia."

    "It's clearly too early to say which way he's leaning, but his hometown Longhorns could be a good fit. Texas currently has a load of young talent, but by the time Mickey gets to Austin, they will be nearing the end of their college careers. Four-star power forward Connor Lammert will be an incoming freshman this year, but no player has committed for 2013."

    "Rick Barnes needs a big body on the inside that can bang in the post. Mickey, known for his defensive ability, is very physical and can be that player. His commitment at the very least would help front court depth."

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/features/rumors

    Kind of an odd write-up. Even at the height they list him (and most recruiting services have him listed at 6'7") and with his frame (which tends toward the lean side), he would not appear to be exactly the sort of physique that one would look to being a "big body that can bang in the post," and most recruiting services list him as SF/PF instead of as a strict 4. I have no doubt about Mickey being an excellent player, but I do have questions about his ability to be a strong interior scorer and defender PF in high Div. I ball.

    Highlight video can be seen here. It's not You Tube, so I didn't embed it.

    http://blip.tv/ballislife/6-7-jordan-mickey-official-mix-best-athlete-in-class-of-2013-6084529

    Oh, and "The 6-foot-8 Arlington, T.X., native" and "hometown Longhorns" are not two phrases that any editor worth his salary should allow to appear in an article regarding a single player. (Now, if a large portion of DFW basketball players want to start considering the Longhorns as the hometown team and want to commit to Texas, I certainly won't argue with them about it.)

    This post was edited by bierce on 7/14/2012 at 9:01 PM

    bierce

  • I honestly can't see him as a 3 at all right now, he's definitely a 4 all the way. But at this point I still believe talking about him, Kendall Harris or Karviar Sheperd are wastes of time.

    GQ03

  • Very favorable write-up on NBE for Mickey today. They even gave him another inch. (Of course, lower on the page they also listed Kendal Harris at 6'5")

    Jordan Mickey (Urban DFW Elite 2013) – The 6’9” post player was unstoppable in an afternoon playoff victory dominating the paint from start to finish. Mickey has outstanding footwork on the block and can score over either shoulder with either hand. He uses spins, drop steps, and a host of other moves keeping the defense on its heels all the time with his wide array of options down low. Mickey also succeeded from the high post where his 15 foot jumper is deadly and he can use 1 dribble to attack the rim. Still a bit on the slender side, a college weight room will do wonders for Mickey’s development and he projects as a go to low post scoring option within his first couple years on a high major college campus.

    http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0714/2012-adidas-invitational-friday-recap/

    To explain my earlier comment, from what I have seen of Mickey, he looks like a 4 all the way. If he is of Tristan Thompson's size or better, he could excel. If he is 6'7" or so, then maybe not so much.

    This post was edited by bierce on 7/14/2012 at 11:58 PM

    bierce

  • So we don't overlook our 247 sources, there is a column you can reach through the general 247 Basketball Recruiting page.

    http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Article/Jordan-Mickey-keeping-college-options-open-80728

    bierce

  • I believe Mickey is a legit 6'7 at this point but he does have some pretty long arms that allow him to play taller than he is.

    GQ03

  • bierce said...

    Oh, and "The 6-foot-8 Arlington, T.X., native" and "hometown Longhorns" are not two phrases that any editor worth his salary should allow to appear in an article regarding a single player. (Now, if a large portion of DFW basketball players want to start considering the Longhorns as the hometown team and want to commit to Texas, I certainly won't argue with them about it.)

    Noticed that as well...had this ^^^ in my original post as I wasn't sure if I missed some kind of announcement about UT relocating...really poor writing by ESPN

    & after seeing GQ03 post about Mickey & others being a waste of time to recruit, can't help but think Jazzy Hartwell's involved

    This post was edited by mcb0703 on 7/15/2012 at 5:15 AM

    mcb0703

  • mcb0703 said...

    & after seeing GQ03 post about Mickey & others being a waste of time to recruit, can't help but think Jazzy Hartwell's involved

    Oh, yeah. He is playing for Urban DFW Elite.

    bierce

  • Seems like every player that is talked about is followed by Texas is a long shot. Will there every be a five star player in the future where Texas is not a long shot?

    Jordan91

  • Jordan91 said...

    Seems like every player that is talked about is followed by Texas is a long shot. Will there every be a five star player in the future where Texas is not a long shot?

    From a 5* talent recruiting standpoint, Barnes deserves more credit than you've given him..

    Kevin Durant, Jordan Hamilton, Tristan Thompson, Myck Kabongo, Cory Joseph, Cameron Ridley (ESPN 5*), Damion James, LaMarcus Aldridge, Mike Williams, Daniel Gibson, Avery Bradley

    mcb0703

  • Jordan91 said...

    Seems like every player that is talked about is followed by Texas is a long shot. Will there every be a five star player in the future where Texas is not a long shot?

    C'mon, Jordan. Ridley hasn't even started playing for us yet and you're talking about no hope to ever get an in-state 5 star?

    bierce

  • mcb0703 said...

    From a 5* talent recruiting standpoint, Barnes deserves more credit than you've given him..

    Kevin Durant, Jordan Hamilton, Tristan Thompson, Myck Kabongo, Cory Joseph, Cameron Ridley (ESPN 5*), Damion James, LaMarcus Aldridge, Mike Williams, Daniel Gibson, Avery Bradley

    The future man, the future. Not all of those guys were five start accross the board either. It just seems like the past four years there has been a decline and it seems to be showing up in recruiting. Tired of always hearing long shot or we were down there to the end but lost at the very end. I am a die hard Texas Basketball fan till I die but, in case you have not noticed there is a school about 150 miles down the road that is about to pass Texas by and, even though they may not do it the right way they are still doing it. Texas seems to be stuck in the sand. No longer moving forward but not moving backward. They have to get out of that.

    Jordan91

  • Jordan91 said...

    The future man, the future. Not all of those guys were five start accross the board either. It just seems like the past four years there has been a decline and it seems to be showing up in recruiting. Tired of always hearing long shot or we were down there to the end but lost at the very end. I am a die hard Texas Basketball fan till I die but, in case you have not noticed there is a school about 150 miles down the road that is about to pass Texas by and, even though they may not do it the right way they are still doing it. Texas seems to be stuck in the sand. No longer moving forward but not moving backward. They have to get out of that.

    & what's your solution? You readily admit other schools may not be doing things the right way but are about to pass Texas? Do you want Texas to follow the same path?

    What do you want Texas to do to get out of being "stuck in the mud"?

    mcb0703

  • Jordan91 said...

    The future man, the future. Not all of those guys were five start accross the board either. It just seems like the past four years there has been a decline and it seems to be showing up in recruiting. Tired of always hearing long shot or we were down there to the end but lost at the very end. I am a die hard Texas Basketball fan till I die but, in case you have not noticed there is a school about 150 miles down the road that is about to pass Texas by and, even though they may not do it the right way they are still doing it. Texas seems to be stuck in the sand. No longer moving forward but not moving backward. They have to get out of that.

    I think you are correct in some degree about Texas moving backward not forward in recruiting, but I think you overstate things somewhat. I am greatly concerned about the chance of missing out on all the great Texas prospects for 2013. That just can't be a good sign; however, I think recruiting is still fairly strong--witness the depth of the last two classes, and with a lot of top in-state talent in McClellan, Lewis, Holmes, Ridley and Ibeh, with Lammert and Holland as no slouches.

    I do think Texas has found somewhat of a harder job in recruiting in the last 3-4 years as the wondiferousness of the Cooley Pavilion has become matched by similar facilities at other schools, and some tournament disappointments certainly haven't helped, but Texas still seems to recruit pretty well overall and has very few openings for 2013, so let's see what Texas gets in November and how this year's crop blends with last year's before we start panicking.

    bierce

  • mcb0703 said...

    & what's your solution? You readily admit other schools may not be doing things the right way but are about to pass Texas? Do you want Texas to follow the same path?

    What do you want Texas to do to get out of being "stuck in the mud"?

    I would never be a fan of any Texas team that broke the rules. Texas needs to do a better job of developing the post players they do get. They need to find that star who underrated right now. They must do a better job in the tournament and is a MUST! And yes they do need to get one or two of those long shot players. Those coaches have to develop a strategy and follow it. When Barnes first got here he started from scratch. He went out and got Ford, Aldrige, Boddicker, etc. He needs to do it again. Time has a way of passing you by without you noticing it. There is one great class coming out next year from Texas and UT could very well get none of them. It's one of the best classes in years and Texas gets none of them. How does that make Texas look? How do you fix that?

    Jordan91

  • Jordan91 said...

    I would never be a fan of any Texas team that broke the rules. Texas needs to do a better job of developing the post players they do get. They need to find that star who underrated right now. They must do a better job in the tournament and is a MUST! And yes they do need to get one or two of those long shot players. Those coaches have to develop a strategy and follow it. When Barnes first got here he started from scratch. He went out and got Ford, Aldrige, Boddicker, etc. He needs to do it again. Time has a way of passing you by without you noticing it. There is one great class coming out next year from Texas and UT could very well get none of them. It's one of the best classes in years and Texas gets none of them. How does that make Texas look? How do you fix that?

    Lots of valid points...but, as I've learned from Gerry H, CBB recruiting is just a different world...some of the most talented players in the state come from the DFW area, & Texas is always gonna be on the outside when it comes to recruiting those kids...people involved that won't deal with Texas, or vice versa

    You mentioned Ford, Aldrige, & Boddicker...2 players from HOU & 1 from Austin...also, Daniel Gibson from HOU

    Looking @ 2013, Frazier & Randle from DFW area...2014 has 5* PG Mudiay from Arlington

    As for fixing how Texas can recruit better in-state...just me, but that starts with changing the AAU stuff, getting the NCAA to actually give a damn about CBB recruiting problems, & a variety of other stuff...sometimes, no matter how hard Barnes & his coaches work, or no matter how much a kid wants to play for Texas, there's just gonna be other factors that prevent it...CBB recruiting absolutely sucks & it's not changing anytime soon, IMVHO

    This post was edited by mcb0703 on 7/16/2012 at 2:55 PM

    mcb0703

  • mcb0703 said...

    Lots of valid points...but, as I've learned from Gerry H, CBB recruiting is just a different world...some of the most talented players in the state come from the DFW area, & Texas is always gonna be on the outside when it comes to recruiting those kids...people involved that won't deal with Texas, or vice versa

    You mentioned Ford, Aldrige, & Boddicker...2 players from HOU & 1 from Austin...also, Daniel Gibson from HOU

    Looking @ 2013, Frazier & Randle from DFW area...2014 has 5* PG Mudiay from Arlington

    As for fixing how Texas can recruit better in-state...just me, but that starts with changing the AAU stuff, getting the NCAA to actually give a damn about CBB recruiting problems, & a variety of other stuff...sometimes, no matter how hard Barnes & his coaches work, or no matter how much a kid wants to play for Texas, there's just gonna be other factors that prevent it...CBB recruiting absolutely sucks & it's not changing anytime soon, IMVHO

    Gerry and Bierce have schooled me on the DFW area but if I am not mistaken I believe Boddicker and Aldridge are somewhat in that area. And yes I know how shady it is down there. But put yourself in a 18yr old recruit from that area. If you like Texas and want to go there then you go. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Also you are not very smart if you get talked out of where you really want to go buy some guy you have only known for a few years you are not very intelligent. If Texas is really a kids choice then he comes.

    Jordan91

  • Jordan91 said...

    Gerry and Bierce have schooled me on the DFW area but if I am not mistaken I believe Boddicker and Aldridge are somewhat in that area. And yes I know how shady it is down there. But put yourself in a 18yr old recruit from that area. If you like Texas and want to go there then you go. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Also you are not very smart if you get talked out of where you really want to go buy some guy you have only known for a few years you are not very intelligent. If Texas is really a kids choice then he comes.

    Actually, I do think Boddicker & LA are from DFW area, I may have been thinking of Brad Buckman when thinking of Boddicker...I really wish your argument would be that simple...just me, I've learned to accept CBB recruiting is never that easy of a decision, not with shoe companies, AAU coaches, World Wide Wes, Jazzy Hartwell, parents, HS coaches, & who knows what else involved in the decision...& now with Larry Brown @ SMU & his WWW connection, no telling what's gonna happen

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by mcb0703 on 7/16/2012 at 3:46 PM

    mcb0703

  • mcb0703 said...

    Actually, I do think Boddicker is from HOU, I may have been thinking of Brad Buckman...I really wish your argument would be that simple...just me, I've learned to accept CBB recruiting is never that easy of a decision, not with shoe companies, AAU coaches, World Wide Wes, Jazzy Hartwell, parents, HS coaches, & who knows what else involved in the decision

    Boddicker played at Duncanville.

    billu

  • Can somebody tell me how that scrub Carmelo Anthony starts over Durant on USA team?

    Jordan91