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papa horn said...
I am of the same school of thought, but I went back over the weekend and watched the bowl win over Cal. I saw a huge difference in Ash with just 15 extra practices. He may not have lit them up with his arm, but he made good decisions and took care of the ball.
If he progresses this summer at the same rate he did over those 15 practices, I think we are in very good shape.
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TheContractor said...
why do u have ou as an L? game is a push just like Wv should be. They are not better than us, on paper or on the field. Both teams have a lot of issues that need to be fixed.
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NYHorn said...
IMO Texas just isn't matched up right to beat OU offensively. They will have 8 players in the box and force Ash to beat them. They're going to blitz a ton. I don't see how you can say its not a loss until we see serious improvement from Ash during the first couple of games...
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papa horn said...
Things that changed from last year
Ash actually gets to prepare for a starters role. Let's remember it was Gilbert, Woods, McCoy, Ash one year ago today.
Cochran started at LT and Espinosa started at C as true freshmen. Cochran was undersized and both missed significant practice/conditioning due to illness/injury. We added a juco LT that received good reports in the Spring which not only gives us better protection for the backside, it allows us to not play people out of position on the OL like we did last year.
Brown and Bergeron are 100% healthy and throw Gray in the mix.
Rumors have them actually building a game plan for Monroe and throw Daje in there as well.
Harris was showing promise at WR before going down and now he is healthy again. Also add Cayleb Jones and Marcus Johnson as possible early contributors.
DJ Grant showed a lot of potential at the TE position after being injured most of last year.
Let them put 8 in the box. Other than Jefferson, they really don't have much back there. I think Ash will have progressed enough that with Grant, Shipley, Davis, Goodwin and your pick of Gray, Brown, Bergeron, Monroe or Daje that he will be able to find someone. Let's not forget that Ash is also capable of pulling the ball down and taking off as well.
It is easier for me to believe our returning players will grow with year under their belts than it is to believe that OU's almost totally inexperienced WR's will step up in their first year.
I may be wrong, but so could everyone else.

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papa horn said...
Things that changed from last year
Ash actually gets to prepare for a starters role. Let's remember it was Gilbert, Woods, McCoy, Ash one year ago today.
Cochran started at LT and Espinosa started at C as true freshmen. Cochran was undersized and both missed significant practice/conditioning due to illness/injury. We added a juco LT that received good reports in the Spring which not only gives us better protection for the backside, it allows us to not play people out of position on the OL like we did last year.
Brown and Bergeron are 100% healthy and throw Gray in the mix.
Rumors have them actually building a game plan for Monroe and throw Daje in there as well.
Harris was showing promise at WR before going down and now he is healthy again. Also add Cayleb Jones and Marcus Johnson as possible early contributors.
DJ Grant showed a lot of potential at the TE position after being injured most of last year.
Let them put 8 in the box. Other than Jefferson, they really don't have much back there. I think Ash will have progressed enough that with Grant, Shipley, Davis, Goodwin and your pick of Gray, Brown, Bergeron, Monroe or Daje that he will be able to find someone. Let's not forget that Ash is also capable of pulling the ball down and taking off as well.
It is easier for me to believe our returning players will grow with year under their belts than it is to believe that OU's almost totally inexperienced WR's will step up in their first year.
I may be wrong, but so could everyone else.

This post was edited by Redbandito25 on 7/2/2012 at 9:07 PM
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NYHorn said...
I get all of that. But I don't buy anything until I see, in a game, Ash making the plays necessary to win a game. OU proved they could stop the Texas running game when the quart back isn't a playmaker.
But just because Ash and McCoy will have more "game experience" I don't think Texas will do better offensively. If we see Ash prove against crappy teams the first three games of the season that he can make big plays with his arm, then I'll feel better about the OU game. IMO Ash can't be a "game-manager" against OU solely due to the fact that they can stop the run. I don't think WVU can. But OU can. So, Ash will have to be a "playmaker/game-changer" IMO to put enough points for Texas to win.
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Redbandito25 said...
I've seen you state this a couple times now. For the record, Espinosa was the other OL in the class with Hopkins. That made him a RS Freshman las t year, not a True Freshman. Not a big deal, just wanted to clarify.
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papa horn said...
Fair enough, but if you're not buying what I'm selling you also can't buy that OU will be as good on offense as they were last year without the 214 yards Broyles and Reynolds had. I think our defense can as much or more damage against their offense as their defense can do to ours.
It's not so much the game experience Ash has as it is that he will get starters reps for an entire Spring and Summer. And where you and I differ is that I believe we can beat OU with Ash as a game manager. If we don't turn the ball over five times and take eight sacks it's a different game last year. If I recall correctly OU's offense only scored about 28 points without the help of turnovers.
The debate will continue until October, but I like our chances.
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