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He wasn't coaching superstars at OU when he was here yet produced great defenses every year. Guys like Strait, Everage, Thompson, Klein, those great college players but weren't highly recruited and never made it in the NFL. The Arizona thing isn't fair because two seasons in a row they were a game away from winning the Pac, something I don't think Arizona has ever had. He had job offers from Ohio State, Nebraska and Iowa but chose to come back to OU, that's a pretty elite list of job offers. He had one bad season and it got him fired but I pretty sure it was mutual because he's a family guy and after Mark left, it stopped being fun for him. He's an excellent coach and his number one attribute has always been getting the most from his players. I don't think we'll be a top 10 defense but even a decent defense would've had us 12-1 last year, instead of 10-3.

Now SS, "the Arizona thing isn't fair," you say. College football is not about fair, it's about winning; your comment is very weak. He was not offered any of the HC positions at the schools you mention. If he'd been offered a HC at any of those places and turned them down to return to ou he would be crazy. Sure you're a fan of his because it's ou and I'm not because I'm a Texas grad...it's all very simple. ou sucks boomer and that's the way it goes.

I seem to recall Dick Tomey doing a pretty good job at U of A. I think the world will really understand that the best parts of the OU defense has been their leadership at LB. Venables has always been the LB's coach, and was Co-defensive coordinator during Mike's first tenure at OU.

When Stoops was at OU, his D's ate our lunch. His being back in goonerville is not a plus for us.

Yep, Stoops also had Venables at LB's coach. I question whether or not his success was reliant upon Venables coaching the LB's. If he was so "great" he wouldn't have accepted a co-defensive coordinator job after being a head coach.

There's really no point in arguing with you Chupita. You've got your mind made up because his last name is Stoops. There's a lot of rational posters on here that can carry a level headed conversation, you're not one of them. He went 4-1 vs Texas, so either he's a pretty good coach or yours aren't, I choose the good coach route. You give all of the credit to BV but look at his defenses lately and they've been ripped. Also, that was BV that was destroyed by KSU. Mike didn't call a single play at that game. The OU secondary was nasty under Mike, as were the LBs but Stoops has a much better feel for game than BV. I'm not arguing with you anymore though because it falls on deaf ears but that's rivalries and that's what makes them fun. Btw, Stoops track record is much more impressive than Harsins and its not even close.

Venable D "ate our lunch last year"... OU losing BV is definitely a plus for us

Yep, he did a hell of a lot of "winning" at Arizona. Seriously? Just look at Tomey's record there. Didn't he coach in the same "worst facilities" in the PAC? Keep making up those excuses for the biggest hothead, underachieving head coach in the PAC. We'll see what he does without Venables on the sideline. We already know what he did to Arizona's defense over in Tucson. There is a reason that the best offers he could land were that of a co-defensive coordinator.

I definitely see the significant benefits that he is bringing to the OU recruiting efforts. He's getting solid 3* prospects that are barely in the Top 100 in the state of Texas. Get real. What exactly has he "closed" since 2000 (with Venables)? I'm sure he "closed" on his house in Tucson when he was walked to the door. Impressive stuff right there.

Chupita - Just curious, did Mike Stoop take your girl-friend or something?? You sure seem to just have a beef with him, all 13 of your posts pretty much...Its pretty common knowledge nationwide that he is a top Defensive Coordinator... And yet you keep beating that Brent Veenables drum!!!! Brent, is that you!!!???? Haha

Ye of little faith

Co DCs are just a way to make everyone happy. He called the plays, not BV. He was offered by some very respected head coaches to come lead their defenses but chose OU. You don't know what you're talking about. And if it was all BV, why was there a dramatic drop off defensively after Mike left?? The last 5 years, with the exception of 2009, our defenses have been some of the worst this decade. Last years defense gave up the most yards in OU history, and coming off a bye week! Oh yeah it was all BV.

Dude, give it a rest.

Stoops (Mike) is a very good DC.

Also, he and Venable were CO-DC's at goonerville. They shared the job.